Afternoon fisherthems
Apologies if its been done to death but are there any tips on how to make an existing bedchair more comfortable?
I just did a 72hr session and each day, woke up like i'd been beaten up.
Outside of paying more attention to the level of the bed and possibly putting foam around parts of the frame, i don't know what else would be feasible.
I sleep on my side and my hip was killing me from basically sleeping on the metal frame. I have the Fox R system (RS3?) and whilst i am chunky, it wasn't sagging onto the legs or anything like that
Apologies if its been done to death but are there any tips on how to make an existing bedchair more comfortable?
I just did a 72hr session and each day, woke up like i'd been beaten up.
Outside of paying more attention to the level of the bed and possibly putting foam around parts of the frame, i don't know what else would be feasible.
I sleep on my side and my hip was killing me from basically sleeping on the metal frame. I have the Fox R system (RS3?) and whilst i am chunky, it wasn't sagging onto the legs or anything like that
In reply to Post #1
SIM. Makes a big difference .
Plenty of deals around
Self inflating mat
You can also replace the elastic with paracord
SIM. Makes a big difference .
Plenty of deals around
Self inflating mat
You can also replace the elastic with paracord
In reply to Post #1
I'm a side sleeper too, sim is definitely the way to go, and much cheaper than constantly looking for the perfect bedchair.
I'm a side sleeper too, sim is definitely the way to go, and much cheaper than constantly looking for the perfect bedchair.
As a side sleeper, I tried a SIM and it worked well but I had to keep topping the air up.
I'm thinking of trying one of these but not sure yet.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165568786282?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Cp90mNT5Sau&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=nXBTcnsMRXq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I'm thinking of trying one of these but not sure yet.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165568786282?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Cp90mNT5Sau&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=nXBTcnsMRXq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I'm a side sleeper too, I have the Trakker ELS but I'm 6' tall and sleep in a foetal position and the bars even though padded used to really hurth my knees due to pressure points.
Solution 1, a Helium 3.5 SIM, it was about 5cm short on matress width but took the difference in height out between the mattress sag and the metal frame, my knees no longer hurt, but it had to be fully inflated which made it hard and on long term use it hurt my shoulder.
Solution 2, a wider and taller sim which filled the 5cm gap, it was also bigger at 7.5cm but that means it didn't have to be inflated so hard to take up the sag meaning a softer mattress and no shoulder pain. The mattress is now slightly higher that the frame/padding which is a good thing and the knee only slightly rests on the frame, you wouldn't know it was there.
The Helium and my Outdoor Revolution Campstar 7.5 have a design of valve that's based on a tried and tested brass valve that's been around for decades.
All SIMS are not the same, I'd now always go for foam/air inner rather than just air. The trend at the mo is for the cyclone valves and to say they have mixed reviews is a understatement. My wife bought the Vango Shangri La 15 for camping which is a expensive SIM, I couldn't persuade her otherwise but so far, touch wood with plus 90 days use it's fine, others have not been so lucky with reports of multiple failures. If I could get a base bed to fit this mattress I'd ditch my bed chair in a shot, it's that comfy. Decathlon do a frame for airbeds, that's as far as I got searching that.
You can also get memory foam mattresses/toppers like the abode made bespoke quite reasonably by motorhome and canal boat fitters.
Solution 1, a Helium 3.5 SIM, it was about 5cm short on matress width but took the difference in height out between the mattress sag and the metal frame, my knees no longer hurt, but it had to be fully inflated which made it hard and on long term use it hurt my shoulder.
Solution 2, a wider and taller sim which filled the 5cm gap, it was also bigger at 7.5cm but that means it didn't have to be inflated so hard to take up the sag meaning a softer mattress and no shoulder pain. The mattress is now slightly higher that the frame/padding which is a good thing and the knee only slightly rests on the frame, you wouldn't know it was there.
The Helium and my Outdoor Revolution Campstar 7.5 have a design of valve that's based on a tried and tested brass valve that's been around for decades.
All SIMS are not the same, I'd now always go for foam/air inner rather than just air. The trend at the mo is for the cyclone valves and to say they have mixed reviews is a understatement. My wife bought the Vango Shangri La 15 for camping which is a expensive SIM, I couldn't persuade her otherwise but so far, touch wood with plus 90 days use it's fine, others have not been so lucky with reports of multiple failures. If I could get a base bed to fit this mattress I'd ditch my bed chair in a shot, it's that comfy. Decathlon do a frame for airbeds, that's as far as I got searching that.
You can also get memory foam mattresses/toppers like the abode made bespoke quite reasonably by motorhome and canal boat fitters.
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If you can mate - save up some coin and get yourself a Solar C-Tech, you cannot go wrong with these and they have a built in foam / air bed matress.
If you stuck a decent SIM (North Face, Berghaus make, not the cheap ones on e-bay) on top, you probably couldn't get anything more comfier for fishing on the bank.
If you can mate - save up some coin and get yourself a Solar C-Tech, you cannot go wrong with these and they have a built in foam / air bed matress.
If you stuck a decent SIM (North Face, Berghaus make, not the cheap ones on e-bay) on top, you probably couldn't get anything more comfier for fishing on the bank.
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I was seriously considering one of these until some side sleepers on here said they've gotten rid as it hurt their shoulders being too hard!
Another thing re SIMS, they don't breath, can get damp and they can be very warm esp in summer. You won't go far wrong looking at things like campervan and van life sites re SIMS
I was seriously considering one of these until some side sleepers on here said they've gotten rid as it hurt their shoulders being too hard!
Another thing re SIMS, they don't breath, can get damp and they can be very warm esp in summer. You won't go far wrong looking at things like campervan and van life sites re SIMS
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That was me, got the Fox flatliter now and it's a dream, i hate sims so i have tried + 10 bedchairs the last 2 years only ones that felt good for my shoulders were the Trakker oval levelite tail (not the new Mf ones) Fox duralite and the Fox flatliter,
All 3 are High density memory foam matrass
That was me, got the Fox flatliter now and it's a dream, i hate sims so i have tried + 10 bedchairs the last 2 years only ones that felt good for my shoulders were the Trakker oval levelite tail (not the new Mf ones) Fox duralite and the Fox flatliter,
All 3 are High density memory foam matrass
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Go on Amazon search unigear ultralite inflatable sleeping pad under £20 each I use 2 of these on my fox mk2 bedchair underneath the sleeping bag for the last 5 years and never get back ache ever . I've pissed so much money up the wall buying many on different bedchair over the years without success finding one to stop back ache and none of them did the inflatable mattress stopped that
Go on Amazon search unigear ultralite inflatable sleeping pad under £20 each I use 2 of these on my fox mk2 bedchair underneath the sleeping bag for the last 5 years and never get back ache ever . I've pissed so much money up the wall buying many on different bedchair over the years without success finding one to stop back ache and none of them did the inflatable mattress stopped that
Thanks all for the replies. I'll check out my options and see what i can do to improve it.
As great as the Solar C-tech looks, I can't justify 500+ for a bed chair. Maybe if i do a few more nights a year it might be worth it but other things i'd rather prioritise first i think.
I'll give a SIM a go and see how we get on from there
As great as the Solar C-tech looks, I can't justify 500+ for a bed chair. Maybe if i do a few more nights a year it might be worth it but other things i'd rather prioritise first i think.
I'll give a SIM a go and see how we get on from there
In reply to Post #1
SIM is the way to go!
I had a solar cp bedchair and was far too firm for me and like yourself woke up with aching hips......
SIM is the way to go!
I had a solar cp bedchair and was far too firm for me and like yourself woke up with aching hips......
In reply to Post #1
SIMS do help on stiffer beds . . . BUT the reality is all bedchairs (even the latest and greatest) are uncomfortable when compared to your pocket sprung 6' wide mattress at home . .
In summer I sleep on top of 2-3 layers of bag (Gardner Compact) on an original SP C-Tech which adds to the padding . . .also take 2x large pillows and wedge my shoulder under one of them which also helps . .
SIMS do help on stiffer beds . . . BUT the reality is all bedchairs (even the latest and greatest) are uncomfortable when compared to your pocket sprung 6' wide mattress at home . .
In summer I sleep on top of 2-3 layers of bag (Gardner Compact) on an original SP C-Tech which adds to the padding . . .also take 2x large pillows and wedge my shoulder under one of them which also helps . .
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Agreed.
In summer I add layers to help with side sleeping and if I can park next to my peg. I'll take more comfortable bedding etc too.
Agreed.
In summer I add layers to help with side sleeping and if I can park next to my peg. I'll take more comfortable bedding etc too.
I'm a side sleeper and have an original SP C-Tech and it was a bit too firm until I put a Helium mat on it and now it's perfect for me, I do like a firm mattress though
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Also a side sleeper with metalwork in my lower back, I have a cheap light bed (Wychwood Tactical X) and an expensive sim, Exped Megamat 10, its so comfortable an can be inflated to you desired firmness, it's far better than the thinner versions. Also folds up in the bed with Fortis bag.
Also a side sleeper with metalwork in my lower back, I have a cheap light bed (Wychwood Tactical X) and an expensive sim, Exped Megamat 10, its so comfortable an can be inflated to you desired firmness, it's far better than the thinner versions. Also folds up in the bed with Fortis bag.