Hi guys.havent been on here for a while as it seems abit toxic at times but i have a question for the more older,experienced carpers like me.
Have you seen a difference in what boilies seem to work best in certain types of lakes?
For example,are fishmeals more productive in deep lakes or shallow and if so why?
Do nut baits work better in weedy lakes,get my drift?
Im sure weve all had a favourite bait over the years that catches on most places then on a certain type of lake you cant get a sniff,coincidence maybe?
There's alot of boilie choice out there today from the basic stuff up to the quality stuff,they all work on their day but im guessing the quality ones like Daves at Rollin and Kennys at Asylum will prevail regardless as the carp knows whats good for it but im curious if anyone has found a pattern with catch rates using different bait make ups.
I presume the thinking brains of Frank Warwick and JB would have certain views on this,like i say 'just curious'....
Have you seen a difference in what boilies seem to work best in certain types of lakes?
For example,are fishmeals more productive in deep lakes or shallow and if so why?
Do nut baits work better in weedy lakes,get my drift?
Im sure weve all had a favourite bait over the years that catches on most places then on a certain type of lake you cant get a sniff,coincidence maybe?
There's alot of boilie choice out there today from the basic stuff up to the quality stuff,they all work on their day but im guessing the quality ones like Daves at Rollin and Kennys at Asylum will prevail regardless as the carp knows whats good for it but im curious if anyone has found a pattern with catch rates using different bait make ups.
I presume the thinking brains of Frank Warwick and JB would have certain views on this,like i say 'just curious'....
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Some baits works better in silt (the norm in venues my way) where due to the nature of the bait it can take on silt. Not sure about other lake bed types. Some venues just fish better with fishmeals etc than others -Some baits are lighter so will sit better in weed etc. I do take into account colour too of both the bait and water.
Some baits can just become the accepted food source so preference can be those baits than others.
Some baits works better in silt (the norm in venues my way) where due to the nature of the bait it can take on silt. Not sure about other lake bed types. Some venues just fish better with fishmeals etc than others -Some baits are lighter so will sit better in weed etc. I do take into account colour too of both the bait and water.
Some baits can just become the accepted food source so preference can be those baits than others.
I'm by no means a bait buff, but my experience of it is I prefer a decent fishmeal in weedy waters.
The fishmeal I use attracts all manner of aquatic life in weedy venues, having tested it during sessions in the margins at multiple venues.
I'll be honest, I've not tested other base mix options in quite the same way or length of time, but I have tried an alternative boilie (I believe to be more dairy based) from the same company I get my fishmeal based bait from and does not seem to have the same effects.
Weedy waters, IMO, have more naturals for the carp to feed on, so I want something that will attract these naturals.
Away from this, I spoke to a bait company owner at a carp show a couple of years back and he insinuated that some of these 'top social media' anglers can and do get their baits aligned to the right PH level (whatever that level is) for the lakes they are fishing, which I found interesting.
The fishmeal I use attracts all manner of aquatic life in weedy venues, having tested it during sessions in the margins at multiple venues.
I'll be honest, I've not tested other base mix options in quite the same way or length of time, but I have tried an alternative boilie (I believe to be more dairy based) from the same company I get my fishmeal based bait from and does not seem to have the same effects.
Weedy waters, IMO, have more naturals for the carp to feed on, so I want something that will attract these naturals.
Away from this, I spoke to a bait company owner at a carp show a couple of years back and he insinuated that some of these 'top social media' anglers can and do get their baits aligned to the right PH level (whatever that level is) for the lakes they are fishing, which I found interesting.
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I spoke to a bait company owner at a carp show a couple of years back and he insinuated that some of these 'top social media' anglers can and do get their baits aligned to the right PH level (whatever that level is) for the lakes they are fishing, which I found interesting.
IMHO that is simply carpy BS.
What he actually means is - they just camp out longer with the same standard bait
RE:
I spoke to a bait company owner at a carp show a couple of years back and he insinuated that some of these 'top social media' anglers can and do get their baits aligned to the right PH level (whatever that level is) for the lakes they are fishing, which I found interesting.
IMHO that is simply carpy BS.
What he actually means is - they just camp out longer with the same standard bait
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Quite possibly so, but this is what he basically said to me.
It would be interesting to know if PH levels play any part, though even if scientifically proven there would probably still be doubters, as is the norm within the industry anyway, unless it fits within a company or persons narrative.
I think Ken Townley wrote a bit about PH Levels last year, although this was more about water PH levels as opposed to bait, but I'm sure he's not the only experienced angler to do so.
Quite possibly so, but this is what he basically said to me.
It would be interesting to know if PH levels play any part, though even if scientifically proven there would probably still be doubters, as is the norm within the industry anyway, unless it fits within a company or persons narrative.
I think Ken Townley wrote a bit about PH Levels last year, although this was more about water PH levels as opposed to bait, but I'm sure he's not the only experienced angler to do so.
It's a interesting subject, a lot of fact, and a lot of opinion.
One thing hard to doubt given the historic evidence is that acids work, and by their nature they must have a different localised attraction.
Same goes for ions, my memory's fading a bit wasn't it Frank Warrick spodding salt on Cheshire Mere's. Fish are known to flank in areas high is salt deposits so is the salt attracting the fish and the bait just happens to be their, not sure as highly salted baits seem to work quite well, especially in spring.
The same goes re alarm signals to fish, maybe fish wise up after a while, maybe that's the reason for some asking for an attempt to match ph as no one else would bother.
A Genie wish, to be a Carp for the day and see what's what...then come back and I hate to use the word, 'slay' them
One target, one right bait in the right place, move on...imagine the head scratching and the rising of a Carp God Star ...come to think of it, no thanks.
One thing hard to doubt given the historic evidence is that acids work, and by their nature they must have a different localised attraction.
Same goes for ions, my memory's fading a bit wasn't it Frank Warrick spodding salt on Cheshire Mere's. Fish are known to flank in areas high is salt deposits so is the salt attracting the fish and the bait just happens to be their, not sure as highly salted baits seem to work quite well, especially in spring.
The same goes re alarm signals to fish, maybe fish wise up after a while, maybe that's the reason for some asking for an attempt to match ph as no one else would bother.
A Genie wish, to be a Carp for the day and see what's what...then come back and I hate to use the word, 'slay' them
One target, one right bait in the right place, move on...imagine the head scratching and the rising of a Carp God Star
...come to think of it, no thanks.
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Just think about it carp god sitting there in your new paid for all bells and whistles 2 man Nash bivvy on your emperor bed leg's folded in your bivvy slippers giving Sunday service to the masses whilst having to get up to reel in the lakes biggest resident carp then letting your groupies pack all your tackle up and move you to your new venue all fighting over your left over krill boiles thinking they got the holy grail of magic beans when secretly your fishing sweetcorn drinking from your brew in a ridgemonkey square cup made on a Korda kooker
What's not to like 🤣🤣🤣
Just think about it carp god sitting there in your new paid for all bells and whistles 2 man Nash bivvy on your emperor bed leg's folded in your bivvy slippers giving Sunday service to the masses whilst having to get up to reel in the lakes biggest resident carp then letting your groupies pack all your tackle up and move you to your new venue all fighting over your left over krill boiles thinking they got the holy grail of magic beans when secretly your fishing sweetcorn drinking from your brew in a ridgemonkey square cup made on a Korda kooker
What's not to like 🤣🤣🤣
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When you mentioned magic beans I thought it was someone who's an ambassador for Parker baits 😂😂
When you mentioned magic beans I thought it was someone who's an ambassador for Parker baits 😂😂