I live in Essex and there's a lot of syndicates around my area . Most expensive one is £1400 but most around the £600-£700 range. With the cost of everything going up do you think the prices are fair.
In reply to Post #1
It's crazy m8 the cost of some of these syndicates
If you live in Essex why not try some of the Lee Valley lakes or get a ticket on one of your local club waters
It's crazy m8 the cost of some of these syndicates
If you live in Essex why not try some of the Lee Valley lakes or get a ticket on one of your local club waters
If you can fish a couple of nights a week, and daytickets now being £30 a night of not more, even that £1400 ticket could save you a lot of money.
Not many syndicates where I live..
I know what goes into running a fishery as I currently manage two and a third on an occasional basis now..
Apart from supply and demand ,I personally think ticket prices are vastly out of the realm of reality..especially in these mad times..
Far too expensive,and in time ,if angling is to continue it could destroy what was a basic ,working man's hobby..
These are my prices where I fish ...£60.a yr ,three lakes ,all species..the other £16 for 24 hrs ,£8 a day...another ,free for life..
I paid 25 quid for a 24 yesterday ,...far too much money ,as a I look around as I'm a groundsman ,gardner,I look around at some places and see nothing but jobs that I could fix in a trice...so what are you getting for your money..?
I know what goes into running a fishery as I currently manage two and a third on an occasional basis now..
Apart from supply and demand ,I personally think ticket prices are vastly out of the realm of reality..especially in these mad times..
Far too expensive,and in time ,if angling is to continue it could destroy what was a basic ,working man's hobby..
These are my prices where I fish ...£60.a yr ,three lakes ,all species..the other £16 for 24 hrs ,£8 a day...another ,free for life..
I paid 25 quid for a 24 yesterday ,...far too much money ,as a I look around as I'm a groundsman ,gardner,I look around at some places and see nothing but jobs that I could fix in a trice...so what are you getting for your money..?
In reply to Post #1
Whats fair got to do with it?
No one has a gun at your head. They'll get away with what they can, that's business.
What matters is the individuals perception of value for money.
Whats fair got to do with it?
No one has a gun at your head. They'll get away with what they can, that's business.
What matters is the individuals perception of value for money.
In reply to Post #5
While I understand what you are saying, I think we as anglers, and as people generally are being conned out of money we don't need to or shouldn't have to spend.
Even if you buy water in plastic bottles from the shops, you still have to pay your water rates. You don't need to buy water in bottles.
The same with fishing. There are loads of smaller cheaper clubs around, but our perception is that carp fishing is all, and big money has to be spent.
I recently admitted at Suffolk Water Park, that as much as I love the lake, I can't afford £30 a night, yet I can afford £500 a season for my syndicate.
There are still free places around, rivers, lakes, ponds, but anglers are marketed towards the expensive venues, by accident or design.
What's fair got to do with it, I agree, but because we live in a society where fair is no longer seen as correct, and where the rich make the rules
While I understand what you are saying, I think we as anglers, and as people generally are being conned out of money we don't need to or shouldn't have to spend.
Even if you buy water in plastic bottles from the shops, you still have to pay your water rates. You don't need to buy water in bottles.
The same with fishing. There are loads of smaller cheaper clubs around, but our perception is that carp fishing is all, and big money has to be spent.
I recently admitted at Suffolk Water Park, that as much as I love the lake, I can't afford £30 a night, yet I can afford £500 a season for my syndicate.
There are still free places around, rivers, lakes, ponds, but anglers are marketed towards the expensive venues, by accident or design.
What's fair got to do with it, I agree, but because we live in a society where fair is no longer seen as correct, and where the rich make the rules
In reply to Post #6
The bottled water analogy isn't great - don't you wash, use a toilet, washing machine, use water for cooking etc?
Everything is expensive these days - including managing an angling venue.
As a business they need to pay people and to turn a profit. People will pay what they can afford to pay for tickets. When a venue finds that they have no customers due to their prices, then they'll have to adjust their prices accordingly. Simple supply and demand.
The bottled water analogy isn't great - don't you wash, use a toilet, washing machine, use water for cooking etc?
Everything is expensive these days - including managing an angling venue.
As a business they need to pay people and to turn a profit. People will pay what they can afford to pay for tickets. When a venue finds that they have no customers due to their prices, then they'll have to adjust their prices accordingly. Simple supply and demand.
In reply to Post #1
Based on a syndicate lake and a fair price to pay.
For me it depends what I'm getting for my money, low syndicate numbers, secure as in both parking and fenced also location of the venue and facilities add a few decent fish to go for and good backup fish and the right stocking levels (I dont like overstocked runs waters) then if its a hole in the ground (which I wouldn't fish) or a lovely scenic lake that has matured overtime and is well kept and managed then I would consider if the asking price is reasonable, for some I suppose it depends on how much time you get to go or the availability to certain waters or their location they could be slap bang in the middle of the Colne valley or a water park with an abundance of options or like me bang in the middle of farm ponds at best, £1500.00 is less than £30.00 a week which is comparable to doing 52 nights on a £30.00 for 24 hr day ticket lake with anglers side by side catching fish that are chased to death day in day out and the worry if your mat, sling, net and marker/spomb rod will still be outside when you wake up.
Given the above I think £1500 is very reasonable for the right lake, as I mentioned I live in the ******* of nowhere where decent waters are very far and few between growing up around my way they were all farm puddles with very little to inspire you, travelling an hour or more to any reasonable lake is all I've ever really done, I finished with day ticket lakes many years ago and I either got lucky or chose wisely and can now fish some decent waters for a lot less I have two very good syndicates just like the one I have mentioned above and a club water for less than £650 a year = £13.00 a week with carp to near 60lb.
Then again I see my fortune akin to having done it for long enough to have met some decent people and had a smattering of luck along the way, these days the pot noodlers want 40's as a minimum and be on the kind of waters that take longer than a 12 month apprenticeship to achieve (and some do).
Based on a syndicate lake and a fair price to pay.
For me it depends what I'm getting for my money, low syndicate numbers, secure as in both parking and fenced also location of the venue and facilities add a few decent fish to go for and good backup fish and the right stocking levels (I dont like overstocked runs waters) then if its a hole in the ground (which I wouldn't fish) or a lovely scenic lake that has matured overtime and is well kept and managed then I would consider if the asking price is reasonable, for some I suppose it depends on how much time you get to go or the availability to certain waters or their location they could be slap bang in the middle of the Colne valley or a water park with an abundance of options or like me bang in the middle of farm ponds at best, £1500.00 is less than £30.00 a week which is comparable to doing 52 nights on a £30.00 for 24 hr day ticket lake with anglers side by side catching fish that are chased to death day in day out and the worry if your mat, sling, net and marker/spomb rod will still be outside when you wake up.
Given the above I think £1500 is very reasonable for the right lake, as I mentioned I live in the ******* of nowhere where decent waters are very far and few between growing up around my way they were all farm puddles with very little to inspire you, travelling an hour or more to any reasonable lake is all I've ever really done, I finished with day ticket lakes many years ago and I either got lucky or chose wisely and can now fish some decent waters for a lot less I have two very good syndicates just like the one I have mentioned above and a club water for less than £650 a year = £13.00 a week with carp to near 60lb.
Then again I see my fortune akin to having done it for long enough to have met some decent people and had a smattering of luck along the way, these days the pot noodlers want 40's as a minimum and be on the kind of waters that take longer than a 12 month apprenticeship to achieve (and some do).
In reply to Post #1
Happy to pap upto around £1000 per year for decent fishing.
That said there are at least 4 lakes / ponds / rivers that are free within a few miles of me, so you can still have access to fish to 30lb without having to pay day tickets.
Local clubs have fish to 50lb for £200 per year, so there's plenty of accessible angling around, however if you want some privacy and a guaranteed private water then you have to pay a decent whack these days. (of course there's the odd gem on club tickets)
Happy to pap upto around £1000 per year for decent fishing.
That said there are at least 4 lakes / ponds / rivers that are free within a few miles of me, so you can still have access to fish to 30lb without having to pay day tickets.
Local clubs have fish to 50lb for £200 per year, so there's plenty of accessible angling around, however if you want some privacy and a guaranteed private water then you have to pay a decent whack these days. (of course there's the odd gem on club tickets)
In reply to Post #1
Running lakes costs a lot of money. Leasing the water is feasibly over 10 grand a year in many cases if not more, fencing, maintenance, swim building, treating the water if needed costs a fortune. 25 members at £1400 each does not go that far towards covering costs. It's a Labour of love in most cases, but can provide lovely fishing and a lovely environment for members.
Would you rather pay £1400 a year for quiet, secure and good quality fishing with limited numbers, or £30 a night to fish a day ticket circus? I know which I would choose.
Running lakes costs a lot of money. Leasing the water is feasibly over 10 grand a year in many cases if not more, fencing, maintenance, swim building, treating the water if needed costs a fortune. 25 members at £1400 each does not go that far towards covering costs. It's a Labour of love in most cases, but can provide lovely fishing and a lovely environment for members.
Would you rather pay £1400 a year for quiet, secure and good quality fishing with limited numbers, or £30 a night to fish a day ticket circus? I know which I would choose.
In reply to Post #1
£1400 for a ticket doesn't seem that bad tbh depends how much you get out, I would pay upto £2000 for the right place I'm on a waiting list for one that's £1700 I'd rather fish somewhere like that then a day ticket circus any day of the week
£1400 for a ticket doesn't seem that bad tbh depends how much you get out, I would pay upto £2000 for the right place I'm on a waiting list for one that's £1700 I'd rather fish somewhere like that then a day ticket circus any day of the week
Depends what people want/expect for their money... Some syndicates these days are that in name alone... Run for profit is not a true syndicate, and that's just for starters...
In reply to Post #2
Exactly. One Essex club has several waters that contain some very good fish up to nudging 50lb. No waiting list, just send off your money and you're a member. The waters don't get that crowded either, although OK, there are the noddies to contend with, I'll concede that. I think some syndicates down my way (Essex!) take the piss with prices. If you want a good syndicate water and pay a reasonable price, join one in Cambridgeshire like I did. Everyone fishes for carp in Essex, which is a big part of the problem I suppose...
Exactly. One Essex club has several waters that contain some very good fish up to nudging 50lb. No waiting list, just send off your money and you're a member. The waters don't get that crowded either, although OK, there are the noddies to contend with, I'll concede that. I think some syndicates down my way (Essex!) take the piss with prices. If you want a good syndicate water and pay a reasonable price, join one in Cambridgeshire like I did. Everyone fishes for carp in Essex, which is a big part of the problem I suppose...
Most I have paid is 550 but would pay a bit more if required for the right water.
Like most financial things it's all relative to what you enjoy in life. I have friends whose cars depreciate by 3k a year or more. I'll stick to my 12 year Old Ford.
Like most financial things it's all relative to what you enjoy in life. I have friends whose cars depreciate by 3k a year or more. I'll stick to my 12 year Old Ford.
In reply to Post #12
There are very few true "syndicates" in most instances you are paying a fee to fish a certain water.
Price is down the pecking order for me, not that it doesn't come into it, of course it does but there's more important things for me when selecting a lake to fish.
There are very few true "syndicates" in most instances you are paying a fee to fish a certain water.
Price is down the pecking order for me, not that it doesn't come into it, of course it does but there's more important things for me when selecting a lake to fish.