With the ever increasing use of wafters / pop ups etc I'm wondering whether anyone still uses a hookbait straight out of the bag and with what degree of success . I'm just wondering whether this could give you an edge as I rarely see anyone doing this , thanks.
In reply to Post #1
Yes quite often, why wouldn't it work?
Yes quite often, why wouldn't it work?
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Yes all the time on the river match the hatch 100%
Yes all the time on the river match the hatch 100%
In reply to Post #1
Sometimes but I do like a nice pimped up bait of my choice with a dna evo kit to do my hook baits
Sometimes but I do like a nice pimped up bait of my choice with a dna evo kit to do my hook baits
If they are eating the freebies then use one out of the bag. If you fish for a bite and not fishing over many free baits then use a glugged bait.
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Always. I've been using DNA SLK shelf.life for 3 years.
Nearly.always just use a boilie from the bag fished as a bottom bait.
Always. I've been using DNA SLK shelf.life for 3 years.
Nearly.always just use a boilie from the bag fished as a bottom bait.
In reply to Post #1
Yes, on a method feeder used the same pellets on a pond I was fishing on holiday recently, great little pond between Chester and mold, caught 13 , made me think I should use the same bait. But slightly bigger. They wasn't interested in my boilies on the other rod.
Yes, on a method feeder used the same pellets on a pond I was fishing on holiday recently, great little pond between Chester and mold, caught 13 , made me think I should use the same bait. But slightly bigger. They wasn't interested in my boilies on the other rod.
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Thanks for the replies . Just wondering if we're missing a trick and over complicate things . They are sucking in lots of different items all of the time so is the weight of a hook going to be that noticeable when moving from one freebie to another.
Thanks for the replies . Just wondering if we're missing a trick and over complicate things . They are sucking in lots of different items all of the time so is the weight of a hook going to be that noticeable when moving from one freebie to another.
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Thanks for the replies . Just wondering if we're missing a trick and over complicate things . They are sucking in lots of different items all of the time so is the weight of a hook going to be that noticeable when moving from one freebie to another.
Moving from one freebie to another, the weight of the hook, you just hit on the reason for using a hair
Simplified, but Boilie is sucked in, taken to back of mouth and crushed in pharyngeal teeth, swallowed.
Boilie on hook, weight of hook and bait not going in to back of mouth.
Boilie on hair, around 15-20mm (example), bait is sucked in, taken to back of mouth, hook follows. Carp attempts to blow out non food items, hook in lip...
Bait out of the bag works. Loads of my fish have come on hookbait same as the freebies.
Thanks for the replies . Just wondering if we're missing a trick and over complicate things . They are sucking in lots of different items all of the time so is the weight of a hook going to be that noticeable when moving from one freebie to another.
Moving from one freebie to another, the weight of the hook, you just hit on the reason for using a hair
Simplified, but Boilie is sucked in, taken to back of mouth and crushed in pharyngeal teeth, swallowed.
Boilie on hook, weight of hook and bait not going in to back of mouth.
Boilie on hair, around 15-20mm (example), bait is sucked in, taken to back of mouth, hook follows. Carp attempts to blow out non food items, hook in lip...
Bait out of the bag works. Loads of my fish have come on hookbait same as the freebies.
All the time,never done anything different..
Here's another way of looking at things..
The float angler has 200 floats,he has a favourite float,and used it for years,the other 199,don't get used much,..
Same as all these dedicated super boosted,rocket powered ,mega critically balanced baits that get bought used once then put away ,never to be seen again..
Straight out of the bag or same as what you have made ,on the hair ,get it out in the pond ,do your location,.make sure your hook is sharp....relax ..!
Carping is so simple,...
Here's another way of looking at things..
The float angler has 200 floats,he has a favourite float,and used it for years,the other 199,don't get used much,..
Same as all these dedicated super boosted,rocket powered ,mega critically balanced baits that get bought used once then put away ,never to be seen again..
Straight out of the bag or same as what you have made ,on the hair ,get it out in the pond ,do your location,.make sure your hook is sharp....relax ..!
Carping is so simple,...
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You go past a chippy it opens soon what you going to do
You go past a chippy it opens soon what you going to do
straight out the bag,corked and fished as a wafter.
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I'm hungry now Snapper,
OK I'm going in that chippy, salivating ..mmmm...,yum yum,fish chips ,curry sauce.. I'm the first customer,so it's all freshly cooked..
Then ,I'm down the lake ,sitting on the bench ,scoffing the lot..back to car ,get float gear ,some roach fishing..lol..
(I get what you mean)...😄
I'm hungry now Snapper,
OK I'm going in that chippy, salivating ..mmmm...,yum yum,fish chips ,curry sauce.. I'm the first customer,so it's all freshly cooked..
Then ,I'm down the lake ,sitting on the bench ,scoffing the lot..back to car ,get float gear ,some roach fishing..lol..
(I get what you mean)...😄
In reply to Post #8
Hookbait same as the freebies wherever possible. I don't bother glugging.
There was a time when your hookbait had to be as identical to your freebies but times and fads change.
I used to critically balance baits (wafters) but decided that I don't want a bait that moves around caused by a fish approaching the bait.
If I do use a pop up I want it weighted down so the required pop up height is achieved but it doesn't move from the spot.
Hookbait same as the freebies wherever possible. I don't bother glugging.
There was a time when your hookbait had to be as identical to your freebies but times and fads change.
I used to critically balance baits (wafters) but decided that I don't want a bait that moves around caused by a fish approaching the bait.
If I do use a pop up I want it weighted down so the required pop up height is achieved but it doesn't move from the spot.
In reply to Post #1
Test it on one rod in your lake(s). Lots of people will be for this, lots of people won't. Best way to know if it will give you an edge is try it out!
Test it on one rod in your lake(s). Lots of people will be for this, lots of people won't. Best way to know if it will give you an edge is try it out!