I have a solar bedchair , nice and flat and supportive , but still getting a bad bedchair back 🙄, anyone use a mattress or memory foam topper , and did it help , I'm broken 😁
In reply to Post #1
Is it an SP C-Tech?
If so I recently got one and it's the best bedchair I've used but, being a side sleeper I had to finally give in and put my Cotswold SIM on it. I was getting hip ache where it is so firm but with the SIM on it is now amazingly comfortable.
Is it an SP C-Tech?
If so I recently got one and it's the best bedchair I've used but, being a side sleeper I had to finally give in and put my Cotswold SIM on it. I was getting hip ache where it is so firm but with the SIM on it is now amazingly comfortable.
In reply to Post #2
I bought a Cotswold SIM on the advice on others on here. Highly rate it and wouldn't go back now. Don't overinflated it, allow it to expand to size and then a couple of quick puffs is enough.
I bought a Cotswold SIM on the advice on others on here. Highly rate it and wouldn't go back now. Don't overinflated it, allow it to expand to size and then a couple of quick puffs is enough.
In reply to Post #1
Definitely try a SIM before you do anything else. Just try to find one that fits into you're bedchair. The thicker the better, but a really thick one will not allow you to fold it up with the bag. I wouldn't advise adding air. Just let it self inflate while you set the rest of your gear up, then close the valve/s. If you think it's too soft after a night or two add some air. Remember if you add air by blowing into the sim you are introducing moisture and bacteria which could lead to mould. A pump or blow up bag is better if it's deemed necessary.
Definitely try a SIM before you do anything else. Just try to find one that fits into you're bedchair. The thicker the better, but a really thick one will not allow you to fold it up with the bag. I wouldn't advise adding air. Just let it self inflate while you set the rest of your gear up, then close the valve/s. If you think it's too soft after a night or two add some air. Remember if you add air by blowing into the sim you are introducing moisture and bacteria which could lead to mould. A pump or blow up bag is better if it's deemed necessary.
In reply to Post #1
Yep sim all the way, makes a big difference...I was actually quite amazed how much more comfy it is...🙂
Yep sim all the way, makes a big difference...I was actually quite amazed how much more comfy it is...🙂
One of the best things I did this year was get myself a better and bigger spirit level to level my bed off.
For years, I have used a small spirit level and it has been hit and miss trying to get the bed level which I find is the cause of most problems. The bed only has to be out of level slightly, either lengthways or widthways or both and it can be very uncomfortable. When it is bad, I compensate with using a SIM, usually on my second night after a bad uncomfortable first night.
I bought myself a 12" long plastic red spirit level from Wilko's for a mind blowing £1 and what a difference it made when I first used it in Summer, and since then the SIM has stayed in the car. It was instant comfort. The spirit level is also enhanced in its use by having a groove in its plate which fits the metal work perfectly to keep it running straight along the framework and not cockeyed.
I start levelling from the leg which I think is the highest and will not need adjusting and go widthways across the supports under the bed and adjust the opposite leg, then I go longways with the spirit level on the edge of the frame up or down the bed from the leg that I have just raised, and then finish off by going widthways once again on the supports under the bed. And doing a final check longways to the leg that I started from and it should be level. If its out on that last check, start again.
I have found that if the bed slopes downwards, the hips suffer as all your weight seems to rest on them, if it slopes to the head end, the shoulders suffers as then your shoulder seems to take the weight
But, one problem with using a spirit level is the fact it shows up how crap beds are designed. On only a slightly sloping bank, you can find that you do not have enough leg to extend to level the bed off, about 6 "or 7" leg to extend is far from adequate. So, you have to make do and then you suffer. Or take some wooden blocks.
Another thing that has to be perfect too is, all three sections of the bed must match up, its no good having a saggy head end and leg end and a firm middle or vice versa, that is recipe for a bad back and bad knees. Basically tighten up all three sections or loosen them off so that they are all the same.
For years, I have used a small spirit level and it has been hit and miss trying to get the bed level which I find is the cause of most problems. The bed only has to be out of level slightly, either lengthways or widthways or both and it can be very uncomfortable. When it is bad, I compensate with using a SIM, usually on my second night after a bad uncomfortable first night.
I bought myself a 12" long plastic red spirit level from Wilko's for a mind blowing £1 and what a difference it made when I first used it in Summer, and since then the SIM has stayed in the car. It was instant comfort. The spirit level is also enhanced in its use by having a groove in its plate which fits the metal work perfectly to keep it running straight along the framework and not cockeyed.
I start levelling from the leg which I think is the highest and will not need adjusting and go widthways across the supports under the bed and adjust the opposite leg, then I go longways with the spirit level on the edge of the frame up or down the bed from the leg that I have just raised, and then finish off by going widthways once again on the supports under the bed. And doing a final check longways to the leg that I started from and it should be level. If its out on that last check, start again.
I have found that if the bed slopes downwards, the hips suffer as all your weight seems to rest on them, if it slopes to the head end, the shoulders suffers as then your shoulder seems to take the weight
But, one problem with using a spirit level is the fact it shows up how crap beds are designed. On only a slightly sloping bank, you can find that you do not have enough leg to extend to level the bed off, about 6 "or 7" leg to extend is far from adequate. So, you have to make do and then you suffer. Or take some wooden blocks.
Another thing that has to be perfect too is, all three sections of the bed must match up, its no good having a saggy head end and leg end and a firm middle or vice versa, that is recipe for a bad back and bad knees. Basically tighten up all three sections or loosen them off so that they are all the same.
In reply to Post #6
I hear you Zack but do you actually make it to bed and all set up with all that faffing.......
I hear you Zack but do you actually make it to bed and all set up with all that faffing.......
In reply to Post #7
Here we go again, another one who has obviously not tried something and discounted it.
What faffing? It takes less than a minute to level the bed perfectly which is something you have to do anyway, its only three leg adjustments providing you find the highest leg to start levelling from, its so simple, but obviously not to yourself.
What is the alternative, plonk the bed down on the ground, take a rough guess at levelling it and then faff about with a SIM adjusting that and even worse find its been nipped in the bedchair hinge and got a hole in it when it was last packed away or find it sliding down the bed during the night or yourself and sleeping bag sliding down on top of the SIM.
I know which is the quicker option and if its your mentality to not level a bed, then its probably the reason you suffer because even with a bed that has not been levelled widthways it can be twisted, even with a SIM, it will be uncomfortable as your spine will have to contort itself to match the twist.
It sometimes makes you wonder if its worth posting at times to try and help people.
Here we go again, another one who has obviously not tried something and discounted it.
What faffing? It takes less than a minute to level the bed perfectly which is something you have to do anyway, its only three leg adjustments providing you find the highest leg to start levelling from, its so simple, but obviously not to yourself.
What is the alternative, plonk the bed down on the ground, take a rough guess at levelling it and then faff about with a SIM adjusting that and even worse find its been nipped in the bedchair hinge and got a hole in it when it was last packed away or find it sliding down the bed during the night or yourself and sleeping bag sliding down on top of the SIM.
I know which is the quicker option and if its your mentality to not level a bed, then its probably the reason you suffer because even with a bed that has not been levelled widthways it can be twisted, even with a SIM, it will be uncomfortable as your spine will have to contort itself to match the twist.
It sometimes makes you wonder if its worth posting at times to try and help people.
In reply to Post #8
I´m at my wits end, trying to find a good night´s sleep
I´m a broken man that hasn´t had a painful, stressful, peaceful slumber, as long as i can remember
A new bedchair every year, that ends up in the skip
Different mattresses, but nothing seems to work. 
Only thing i "haven´t tried", is using a spirit level Might be a tight squeeze
I´m at my wits end, trying to find a good night´s sleep
I´m a broken man that hasn´t had a painful, stressful, peaceful slumber, as long as i can remember
A new bedchair every year, that ends up in the skip
Different mattresses, but nothing seems to work. Only thing i "haven´t tried", is using a spirit level
Might be a tight squeeze
In reply to Post #7
Sounds like b.s. however last time out I was on an awkward sloping bank and the first night I hardly slept at all second night I made sure the bed was perfectly levelled and it made a world of difference. Try jacking one side of your bed at home up by three inches and see how well you sleep.
Sounds like b.s. however last time out I was on an awkward sloping bank and the first night I hardly slept at all second night I made sure the bed was perfectly levelled and it made a world of difference. Try jacking one side of your bed at home up by three inches and see how well you sleep.
In reply to Post #6
I use a spirit level app on the phone, it's made a huge difference. What you think is level and what is actually level is amazing and I have a pretty good eye for a wonky picture frame.
Had spinal disk surgery couple of yrs ago, was struggling with beds....
I use a spirit level app on the phone, it's made a huge difference. What you think is level and what is actually level is amazing and I have a pretty good eye for a wonky picture frame.
Had spinal disk surgery couple of yrs ago, was struggling with beds....
In reply to Post #1
The absolute worst thing I have found and guaranteed to ruin my back is sitting sideways on a bed chair, without a bedchair buddy (seat attached for back support) for even 5 minutes. If I do this I'm done for, so always use one. I use the trakker transformer chair and not had a problem since. Touch wood not had issues with my recent bedchairs sleeping wise.
I do remember my first bedchair, a jrc stealth which was made for midgets with no support whatsoever killed my back and that was when I was in my early 20s.
The absolute worst thing I have found and guaranteed to ruin my back is sitting sideways on a bed chair, without a bedchair buddy (seat attached for back support) for even 5 minutes. If I do this I'm done for, so always use one. I use the trakker transformer chair and not had a problem since. Touch wood not had issues with my recent bedchairs sleeping wise.
I do remember my first bedchair, a jrc stealth which was made for midgets with no support whatsoever killed my back and that was when I was in my early 20s.
In reply to Post #12
Any recommendations on a sim ? . I'm currently fishing , yes the bed is level , and I'm broken 😕
Any recommendations on a sim ? . I'm currently fishing , yes the bed is level , and I'm broken 😕
In reply to Post #13
I never use a bedchair to sit on, only for sleeping. I don't really suffer from bad backs but the few occasions I have sat on one for any length of time, it was agony. I always carry a folding chair and use that and then stick it under the bed at night.
I use the Cotswold and rate it.
I never use a bedchair to sit on, only for sleeping. I don't really suffer from bad backs but the few occasions I have sat on one for any length of time, it was agony. I always carry a folding chair and use that and then stick it under the bed at night.
I use the Cotswold and rate it.
In reply to Post #8
Sorry Zack........I guess the Didn't hit the spot.......
Sorry Zack........I guess the
Didn't hit the spot.......