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PVA Bag Lead drop (14 posts / 1,180 views)
rjsnape41
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Post #1 15 Feb 2021 12:24
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If your fishing tight to lilies with a pva bag and you want to drop the lead, but the lake won't let you use Leadcore or leaders, can you still use the inline safety leads with your normal line?

What's the best way to do this?
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #2 15 Feb 2021 12:31
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In reply to Post #1
The best way is to not drop toxic material into the lake. Never drop your leads, it's not necessary
rjsnape41
Posts: 136
Post #3 15 Feb 2021 12:33
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In reply to Post #2
So why do professionals advise it when fishing snags, isn't it better for fish safety?
chanmenie
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Post #4 15 Feb 2021 13:28
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In reply to Post #2
dropping lead does less harm than all the salt that get spodded out and or added to particles

how toxic is a coated lead ?
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #5 15 Feb 2021 13:32
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So why do professionals advise it when fishing snags, isn't it better for fish safety?

Some do it because they are sponsored, and don't have to pay for leads.

For years in weed and near snags I used standard zipp or distance shaped inline leads, with no problems. I rarely lost fish, and rarely got weed catching up on anything other than the hook when reeling in, or on the fishes head as the weed slid down. Shouldered or turtle leads the weed can catch on the shoulder or top of the lead.

I honestly try NOT to drop leads unless I absolutely have to, as there is usually no need.
Most of the time in weed I will stick with inlines however sometimes...
I don't like using lead clips, preferrring run rings. If I do need to drop the lead on a run ring, a paper clip works well.
Halfcentury
Posts: 1,284
Post #6 15 Feb 2021 14:00
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In reply to Post #3
Who are these "professionals". Some of them are competent anglers who work hard to monetise their fishing. A small handful are worth listening to, the rest are employed to sell gear and bait, many of them are a page ahead of you with very limited or narrow experience. Ethics and responsibility come a long way second to ambition.
Dumping the lead has become a fashion, there is rarely any need to do so. Lead is one of the few completely toxic elements, it is deadly to all forms of life and there are no safe levels. It remains in the environment for ever.
yonny yonny
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Post #7 15 Feb 2021 14:06
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In reply to Post #1
I think standard lines will work with most inline drop-off systems.
I'm not sure dropping the lead will benefit you that much in lilies. Dropping the lead tends to have them come up in the water which is great if you have heavy weed to deal with, but it wont stop them ploughing balls deep into lilies. I'd be more concerned about abrasion resistance than the lead tbh mate.
rjsnape41
Posts: 136
Post #8 15 Feb 2021 14:13
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In reply to Post #7
So just fish on the rods and tight clutch?
yonny yonny
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Post #9 15 Feb 2021 14:20
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I reckon so buddy
rjsnape41
Posts: 136
Post #10 15 Feb 2021 15:32
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In reply to Post #9
If using a leader, and making up several pva bags, it attaches your main line via a loop to loop, so do you just need a figure of 8 knot at the end of your line to be able to do this?
yonny yonny
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Post #11 15 Feb 2021 15:41
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In reply to Post #10
Yup
chanmenie
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Post #12 15 Feb 2021 17:00
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In reply to Post #10
Yes as Yonny has said, however there are better loop knots to use if it is weedy, I think its the non slip loop knot that has the tag end pointing the other way so it does not get weed stuck on it.
A minor point but it does make a difference especially if using longish leaders.
Glenn_B Glenn_B
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Post #13 15 Feb 2021 18:39
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In reply to Post #12
Just don't cut the tags too short. Leave it long and it can bend freely.
ip100 ip100
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Post #14 16 Feb 2021 08:21
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In reply to Post #3
"professionals"? You mean the lads who sell leads for near £2 each? A lead should come off if snagged up. If dropping the lead is "necessary" then that spot shouldn't be fished in the first place imo.
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