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Maggots (16 posts / 4,956 views)
Barbel-Arch Barbel-Arch
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Post #1 14 Feb 2021 12:48
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Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why Maggots are banned at some venues ?? I've asked the question on one venues FB page, only for it to be locked before I got an answer. I'd like to use them for some Tench fishing, so not using loads.

Not looking for an argument, just genuinely curious.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #2 14 Feb 2021 12:49
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I think it's down to them being used in stupid amounts, rotting and causing ammonia/water quality issues, I may be totally wrong though
yonny yonny
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Post #3 14 Feb 2021 12:53
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http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=424112
Barbel-Arch Barbel-Arch
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Post #4 14 Feb 2021 12:58
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Halfcentury
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Post #5 14 Feb 2021 19:55
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Same reason nuts, tigers and peanuts are banned on lots of waters. Successful bait, everybody gets on it, more and more goes in. For some the action slows down, more goes in and so on. Becomes a baiting competition. Fish and water quality start to suffer. Bait is banned. I have seen some ridiculous amounts of bait going in waters.
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #6 14 Feb 2021 21:01
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As usual the idiot minority spoil it for the sensible majority...
scozza
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Post #7 14 Feb 2021 22:06
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I would argue that it's the the idiot majority that spoil it for the minority baiting the granny art of it
Halfcentury
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Post #8 15 Feb 2021 07:17
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Doing_a_brew Doing_a_brew
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Post #9 15 Feb 2021 09:33
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They don't pile weight on the fish like boilies and pellets so fishery owners don't want them used by everyone. Simple as that really.
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #10 15 Feb 2021 19:44
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Fair point, Well made....
Barbel-Arch Barbel-Arch
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Post #11 20 Feb 2021 08:34
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I could understand a limit on Maggots if they're being piled in, same as any bait really. Too much of any bait isn't going to do the water quality any good, but to ban them completely seems strange. I think Linear still allow them, but only a couple of pints a day. Seems sensible.
scozza
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Post #12 20 Feb 2021 09:37
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Agree. Comes down to good fishery management for me

Over the years I have fished a lot of waters and some of the popular ones predominantly on a social basis. The amount of bait that goes in on some is unreal and when you watch what goes off people are not getting the returns on their investment so to speak, the opposite, it's killing the fishing and changing carp habits

I've seen countless anglers roll up and just Spod out buckets of bait out, usually as far as they can! and not take a fish. If the truth be know unless they are regular waters and they can reap the rewards by putting some serious time it is just a complete waste of bait. The only benefit for the water is there is always a plentiful supply that fattens the owners fish up, until it goes off and ruins it

It kills the fishing, fish come out in sporadic patterns too. A lot of anglers are more conditioned than the carp. Have bucket of bait and spod rod, must use it and fill it in!

Can't be that difficult can it, a maximum of 2kg of bat per 24 hours

The flip side of the coin there must be some proper crap dropped in too
lilharbs lilharbs
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Post #13 20 Feb 2021 10:12
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Unfortunately whether it is maggots or a maximum total of bait per day as a rule, there will always be rule breakers trying to find an edge. Somewhere like Linear it isn't possible to monitor everyone and how much bait they use, simply trusting everybody won't work as surprisingly people lie 😲 If a fishery bans a bait, leadcore, barbed Hooks etc and you don't like it don't fish there. If the fishery loses business as a result it is their own fault, but I am sure people will fish at venues who stand by their values and rules for a refreshing change.
mal mal
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Post #14 20 Feb 2021 13:54
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scozza makes a good point - I avoid spots like that. bunch of muppets throwing truck loads of the latest craze as far as they can....

call me cynical, but perhaps the maggot ban on some places is to encourage buying 'our own pellets' ... usually in large quantities.

and the fact that - when done right, they'll catch anywhere at any time of year which puts the sponsored bait crews to shame....?



Bigted50 Bigted50
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Post #15 21 Feb 2021 21:14
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2 anglers dropped on our syndicate when active 8 was on fire, not kids and kept themselves to themselves

They used the same hook links as their reel line and hook bait was either shellfish b5 or Icelandic reds, can't remember, reel line was 15lb sensor

Anyhow they fished single hook baits 1 popped up and one bottom bait, never put any freebies in whatsoever, 2 rod rule.

They caught the most on the lake by a large margin.

I tried it but struggled to get my head round it.

Single hook bait fishing, how about that for a thought

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