Hi, Looking for some advice.
I did a lot of course/match fishing around 20 years ago, but want to start fishing again and give carp fishing a try.
Have done some research and am looking at the following initial setup.
• Daiwa Black Widow G50 Rod (12ft / Test Curve 2.75lb)
• Shimano Baitrunner ST RB Reel (1000RB)
• Gardner GT-HD Mono Line 15/18lb line
• Leeda Roque 3 in 1 Rod Pod + Carry Case
• Nash Siren R3 Alarm
• Bash Bobbin Kit
• Korda QC Hybrid Lead Clips
• Korda Square Pear Swivel Lead (2oz & 3oz)
• Korda NEW Ready Tied DF Carp Rigs Size 8 Barbless Pack of 5
• Korda NEW Ready Tied DF Carp Rigs Size 10 Barbless Pack of 5
Q1 - Initial question is, does that sound like a sensible setup? Appreciate everything will have different ideas and personal favorites, but wanted to check I am not going down the wrong path or missing something major.
Q2 - Additionaly, just wanted to confirm I have understood the line setup. In the setup above I would use the line and use a Palomar knot to either a Kora Swivel / QC Swivel Size 8 or Drennan Run Ring. This would then clip on to 1 side of my Hybrid clip. On the other side of the clip the ready tied rigs would clip on. Then the weigh attaches to the Hybrid clip. Bait up and I am ready to go?
Is that the case or have I missed something or using the wrong tackle?
Appreciate and help and comments.
I did a lot of course/match fishing around 20 years ago, but want to start fishing again and give carp fishing a try.
Have done some research and am looking at the following initial setup.
• Daiwa Black Widow G50 Rod (12ft / Test Curve 2.75lb)
• Shimano Baitrunner ST RB Reel (1000RB)
• Gardner GT-HD Mono Line 15/18lb line
• Leeda Roque 3 in 1 Rod Pod + Carry Case
• Nash Siren R3 Alarm
• Bash Bobbin Kit
• Korda QC Hybrid Lead Clips
• Korda Square Pear Swivel Lead (2oz & 3oz)
• Korda NEW Ready Tied DF Carp Rigs Size 8 Barbless Pack of 5
• Korda NEW Ready Tied DF Carp Rigs Size 10 Barbless Pack of 5
Q1 - Initial question is, does that sound like a sensible setup? Appreciate everything will have different ideas and personal favorites, but wanted to check I am not going down the wrong path or missing something major.
Q2 - Additionaly, just wanted to confirm I have understood the line setup. In the setup above I would use the line and use a Palomar knot to either a Kora Swivel / QC Swivel Size 8 or Drennan Run Ring. This would then clip on to 1 side of my Hybrid clip. On the other side of the clip the ready tied rigs would clip on. Then the weigh attaches to the Hybrid clip. Bait up and I am ready to go?
Is that the case or have I missed something or using the wrong tackle?
Appreciate and help and comments.
In reply to Post #1
I just started carp fishing last year, and went for this very rod and reel setup. I bought 2 pcs of Diawa Black widow 12f 3lb, and 2 pcs of the Shimano Baitrunner ST RB Reel (1000RB). The reel is great, i have no complaints. I put 12lb line on mine. The rod is fine too, not caught much on it yet as i always set them up with boilies, and my smaller 10ft trout rod with method feeder which is how i caught 90% of my carp last year. I do wonder if a 12ft long rod is really neccessarry. If i could buy again i'd probably go for an 11ft rod, maybe even 10ft. Anywhow, i'm a total newbie to carp fishing so best to wait for more experienced members to give their input.
I just started carp fishing last year, and went for this very rod and reel setup. I bought 2 pcs of Diawa Black widow 12f 3lb, and 2 pcs of the Shimano Baitrunner ST RB Reel (1000RB). The reel is great, i have no complaints. I put 12lb line on mine. The rod is fine too, not caught much on it yet as i always set them up with boilies, and my smaller 10ft trout rod with method feeder which is how i caught 90% of my carp last year. I do wonder if a 12ft long rod is really neccessarry. If i could buy again i'd probably go for an 11ft rod, maybe even 10ft. Anywhow, i'm a total newbie to carp fishing so best to wait for more experienced members to give their input.
In reply to Post #1
I would say the setup sounds perfect for your intended use. It will last years & most should retain decent re-sale value should you decide to upgrade in the future.
Only thing I would amend slightly would be hook sizes of your rigs. I'd go for 6s & 8s rather than 10s. They may seem big but carp have big old mouths. I'd also buy a spool of coated braid & some hooks to learn to tie your own. Bank tackle are good for this.
Q2: Your mainline ties straight onto the hybrid lead clip using a palomar knot, no need for another swivel or link. Just thread on a tail rubber first to lock the lead in the clip.
I would say the setup sounds perfect for your intended use. It will last years & most should retain decent re-sale value should you decide to upgrade in the future.
Only thing I would amend slightly would be hook sizes of your rigs. I'd go for 6s & 8s rather than 10s. They may seem big but carp have big old mouths. I'd also buy a spool of coated braid & some hooks to learn to tie your own. Bank tackle are good for this.
Q2: Your mainline ties straight onto the hybrid lead clip using a palomar knot, no need for another swivel or link. Just thread on a tail rubber first to lock the lead in the clip.
In reply to Post #1
You may find that anti tangle rig sleeves are handy ...they do exactly what the name describes.
Sinking rig tubing would be on my list too. It threads onto the mainline and is locked in place by being threaded through the tail rubber. It goes a long way to prevent tangles and can be used where leadcore or any other leader is banned A 2m length will do for 3 rods.
Good gripping butt rests if you are going to fish locked up near snags will stop the rod being pulled in even though your
choice of alarms have integral snag ears.
18lb line seems somewhat heavy....I'd rather use 12 than 15 unless it was particularly snaggy or had lots of weed or an abrasive lake bed.
Tight lines.
You may find that anti tangle rig sleeves are handy ...they do exactly what the name describes.
Sinking rig tubing would be on my list too. It threads onto the mainline and is locked in place by being threaded through the tail rubber. It goes a long way to prevent tangles and can be used where leadcore or any other leader is banned A 2m length will do for 3 rods.
Good gripping butt rests if you are going to fish locked up near snags will stop the rod being pulled in even though your
choice of alarms have integral snag ears.
18lb line seems somewhat heavy....I'd rather use 12 than 15 unless it was particularly snaggy or had lots of weed or an abrasive lake bed.
Tight lines.
In reply to Post #4
Thanks for your advice.
Can you recommend a good butt rest/grip?
Thanks for your advice.
Can you recommend a good butt rest/grip?
In reply to Post #5
I used fox medium but grip for my slim cork rods worked well and they were not that expensive, i use the solar mini ones now they are a bit pricey but the are outstanding.
I used fox medium but grip for my slim cork rods worked well and they were not that expensive, i use the solar mini ones now they are a bit pricey but the are outstanding.
In reply to Post #5
I use the ESP ones.
They do two styles, the older more bulky versions are no longer in production but still available.
Both styles come in two sizes depending on if the rods have full cork/duplon or are abbreviated/slimline.
I like them because under a hot tap the rubber can be moulded to the exact dia. of the rod butts and no
locking rings are required to get them tight as the thread can be tightened right up and the grip rotated to align.
The newer style would match you intended alarms, the older style suit older/bulkier alarms.
I have mine set as a very tight fit and as I fit or strike with the rod I use my right thumb to open up the rubber grip so as not to damage the cork or duplon.
Replied to wrong post ....apologies.
I use the ESP ones.
They do two styles, the older more bulky versions are no longer in production but still available.
Both styles come in two sizes depending on if the rods have full cork/duplon or are abbreviated/slimline.
I like them because under a hot tap the rubber can be moulded to the exact dia. of the rod butts and no
locking rings are required to get them tight as the thread can be tightened right up and the grip rotated to align.
The newer style would match you intended alarms, the older style suit older/bulkier alarms.
I have mine set as a very tight fit and as I fit or strike with the rod I use my right thumb to open up the rubber grip so as not to damage the cork or duplon.
Replied to wrong post ....apologies.
In reply to Post #1
Re rigs, my advice, don't get caught up in all the media about this and that being the best, or that a new rig is better than what's already out there. I'd start with 2 rigs, a stiff rig beit nylon or coated braid, and a braid rig and take it from there. If you do try all the new fangled rigs you'll end up like a lot of us with a tackle box of stuff you rarely use
I do try the odd new rig but I only have 2 main stays as above, always end up going back to them, but then I don't fish ultra hard waters where the fish MAY be used to certain rigs.
Butt rests, depends on the diameter of the rod, for price have a look at the NGT butt rests which are very similar to the Gardner/ESP grippers, a very good design. For total flexibility and to future proof yourself Solar Adjustable or Jag Lockdowns are great but they come at a price.
Re rigs, my advice, don't get caught up in all the media about this and that being the best, or that a new rig is better than what's already out there. I'd start with 2 rigs, a stiff rig beit nylon or coated braid, and a braid rig and take it from there. If you do try all the new fangled rigs you'll end up like a lot of us with a tackle box of stuff you rarely use
I do try the odd new rig but I only have 2 main stays as above, always end up going back to them, but then I don't fish ultra hard waters where the fish MAY be used to certain rigs.
Butt rests, depends on the diameter of the rod, for price have a look at the NGT butt rests which are very similar to the Gardner/ESP grippers, a very good design. For total flexibility and to future proof yourself Solar Adjustable or Jag Lockdowns are great but they come at a price.
In reply to Post #6
Also i would always go for 3lb rods i see them as a great medium for smaller and a bit bigger carp u can cast with them if need and still have great playing action, my friend uses daiwa black widow rods(the 3 lb version) still after like 5 or 6 years they are literally bulletproof. And i think its great that u want to buy ready tied rigs at stars, i bought alot of wrong stuff while tying lots of different rigs and stuff i didnt need, yes i learned how to tie alot of types of rigs but in reality u can find the rig u like and then perfect it when u decide what rig suits u.
Also i would always go for 3lb rods i see them as a great medium for smaller and a bit bigger carp u can cast with them if need and still have great playing action, my friend uses daiwa black widow rods(the 3 lb version) still after like 5 or 6 years they are literally bulletproof. And i think its great that u want to buy ready tied rigs at stars, i bought alot of wrong stuff while tying lots of different rigs and stuff i didnt need, yes i learned how to tie alot of types of rigs but in reality u can find the rig u like and then perfect it when u decide what rig suits u.
In reply to Post #9
Thanks for all the advice.
I will be using the Daiwa Black Widow G50 Carp Rod which I believe has a 50mm Aluminium butt cap?
What would be the best butt grip under £15?
Thanks for all the advice.
I will be using the Daiwa Black Widow G50 Carp Rod which I believe has a 50mm Aluminium butt cap?
What would be the best butt grip under £15?
In reply to Post #5
I have been using the ESP ones for years. Simple, reliable cheap and pretty much indestructable. Also come in two sizes. Never lost a rod from them yet.
I have been using the ESP ones for years. Simple, reliable cheap and pretty much indestructable. Also come in two sizes. Never lost a rod from them yet.
In reply to Post #11
Are you referring to the ESP Mini Butt Grips?
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/esp-mini-butt-grip?gclid=CjwKCAiAuoqABhAsEiwAdSkVVP_zyjVw37x79cJsEVB0UKXLa_HQZBn1jtZN4uqsg_nA7Ducz662yBoCeDgQAvD_BwE
What size would I need for the Daiwa Black Widow G50?
Are you referring to the ESP Mini Butt Grips?
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/esp-mini-butt-grip?gclid=CjwKCAiAuoqABhAsEiwAdSkVVP_zyjVw37x79cJsEVB0UKXLa_HQZBn1jtZN4uqsg_nA7Ducz662yBoCeDgQAvD_BwE
What size would I need for the Daiwa Black Widow G50?
In reply to Post #1
My personal bit of advice would be to not put £50 rods on £80 buzzers. Get better rods and cheaper buzzers 😝
My personal bit of advice would be to not put £50 rods on £80 buzzers. Get better rods and cheaper buzzers 😝
In reply to Post #12
ESP backrests. Made in 2 sizes, abbreviated handle and full slim duplon.
ESP backrests. Made in 2 sizes, abbreviated handle and full slim duplon.