Was looking for floating lines (for trotting) and came across this -
Ultima-FloCast-Hollow-Monofil . . .
A bit chunky for what I originally wanted but sounds like a potentially brilliant line (if braid is banned) for surface fishing - twist free and floats as its naturally hollow . . anyone used it?
Ultima-FloCast-Hollow-Monofil . . .
A bit chunky for what I originally wanted but sounds like a potentially brilliant line (if braid is banned) for surface fishing - twist free and floats as its naturally hollow . . anyone used it?
In reply to Post #1
I did for a few years, I quite liked it but it's pretty thick and it does twist.
I only stopped using it when I changed the way I was floater fishing. rather than casting past the fish and drawing the bait back into the zone I'd pay out loads of line and use the breeze to pull it into the area then mend the line. for some reason this line was a pain to mend it, it seemed to stick in the surface tension and not do as it was told. Possibly the ribbed nature of it giving more surface area I suppose
Braid is better for trotting too, makes a huge difference hitting cagey roach/dace bites
I did for a few years, I quite liked it but it's pretty thick and it does twist.
I only stopped using it when I changed the way I was floater fishing. rather than casting past the fish and drawing the bait back into the zone I'd pay out loads of line and use the breeze to pull it into the area then mend the line. for some reason this line was a pain to mend it, it seemed to stick in the surface tension and not do as it was told. Possibly the ribbed nature of it giving more surface area I suppose
Braid is better for trotting too, makes a huge difference hitting cagey roach/dace bites
In reply to Post #2
. . .good advice - found a load cheap so I'll maybe give it a miss. Anti-twist/floating sounded too good to be true!
Yes I'm thinking of going down the braid route for trotting . . what brand / strain do you use and do you use a leader?
. . .good advice - found a load cheap so I'll maybe give it a miss. Anti-twist/floating sounded too good to be true!
Yes I'm thinking of going down the braid route for trotting . . what brand / strain do you use and do you use a leader?
In reply to Post #3
At the moment I'm using a guru braid, 15lb, way to thin really. Strong enough but it's like cheese wire on cold numb hands, especially casting with a centrepin as you have to guide the line with your left hand when casting
I tie up my trotting rigs on pole winders, so I can have a selection ready to loop on, different depths, strengths etc. Usually around around 8 feet of an appropriate rig line+lighter hook link. Depends on the drop for casting really as bulky knots and tiny rings don't play nicely. Lately I've been using the supplex fluorocarbon for the rig line. My trotting rod is very versatile so it's not unusual for me to swap from dace/gudgeon rigs to a barbel rig.
At the moment I'm using a guru braid, 15lb, way to thin really. Strong enough but it's like cheese wire on cold numb hands, especially casting with a centrepin as you have to guide the line with your left hand when casting
I tie up my trotting rigs on pole winders, so I can have a selection ready to loop on, different depths, strengths etc. Usually around around 8 feet of an appropriate rig line+lighter hook link. Depends on the drop for casting really as bulky knots and tiny rings don't play nicely. Lately I've been using the supplex fluorocarbon for the rig line. My trotting rod is very versatile so it's not unusual for me to swap from dace/gudgeon rigs to a barbel rig.
In reply to Post #4
. . interesting!
Is that the guru pulse 8 braid, does it float? Have got an Alvey (Shakespeare Lincoln) side cast pin that I'm itching to use!
I'm currently using standard supplex on a closed faced reel (which actually behaves itself ok with some silicone spray) and also use the supplex flurocarbon for hooklinks.
Just bought a 13ft Drennan Acolyte Plus which is in a different league from my old trotting rod . . what are you using?
. . interesting!
Is that the guru pulse 8 braid, does it float? Have got an Alvey (Shakespeare Lincoln) side cast pin that I'm itching to use!
I'm currently using standard supplex on a closed faced reel (which actually behaves itself ok with some silicone spray) and also use the supplex flurocarbon for hooklinks.
Just bought a 13ft Drennan Acolyte Plus which is in a different league from my old trotting rod . . what are you using?
In reply to Post #5
I'm mainly using a 15ft Harrison gti with a standard tip, I do have a stepped up tip section but I only use that with my biggest floats in deep fast water
My only experience with closed face reels involved tangles every other run through, not sure I'd want braid on one
You need braid on a side cast pin really, you put tonnes of twist in the line every cast. I didn't really notice it when I first got my Ray walton as I'd use it for all sorts and only have 50-60m of line on it that wouldn't stay on long enough for the twist to build up, once I got other pins I preferred for certain rods the line would be unusable after 2 or 3 roving sessions for barbel.
I'm not sure which guru braid it is tbh, I bought it mid session after an accident (put the rod down to deal with a big roach and hadn't put the check on, the flow emptied the spool and it was all knotted up in branches) it does float but as I say, way too thin for what I want.
I'm mainly using a 15ft Harrison gti with a standard tip, I do have a stepped up tip section but I only use that with my biggest floats in deep fast water
My only experience with closed face reels involved tangles every other run through, not sure I'd want braid on one
You need braid on a side cast pin really, you put tonnes of twist in the line every cast. I didn't really notice it when I first got my Ray walton as I'd use it for all sorts and only have 50-60m of line on it that wouldn't stay on long enough for the twist to build up, once I got other pins I preferred for certain rods the line would be unusable after 2 or 3 roving sessions for barbel.
I'm not sure which guru braid it is tbh, I bought it mid session after an accident (put the rod down to deal with a big roach and hadn't put the check on, the flow emptied the spool and it was all knotted up in branches) it does float but as I say, way too thin for what I want.
In reply to Post #6
. . .would never put braid on closed face reel . .! If they're not overfilled they are a doddle and make one handed trotting easy . . .no worries about side winds / bail arms either . . .
The Lincoln is side cast (too tight for a RW rolling pin at this juncture) so ideal for braid. Was thinking of going for Berkley Fireline fused in about 10lb (0.20mm) as I use this in a heavier strain for carp floater fishing and its pretty bullet proof . .
. . .would never put braid on closed face reel . .! If they're not overfilled they are a doddle and make one handed trotting easy . . .no worries about side winds / bail arms either . . .
The Lincoln is side cast (too tight for a RW rolling pin at this juncture) so ideal for braid. Was thinking of going for Berkley Fireline fused in about 10lb (0.20mm) as I use this in a heavier strain for carp floater fishing and its pretty bullet proof . .
In reply to Post #6
Really never had a problem with my old goldmax over many years. Make sure the silicone skirt is in good nick and its not overfilled. Mine is also fitted with alloy match spool.
Really never had a problem with my old goldmax over many years. Make sure the silicone skirt is in good nick and its not overfilled. Mine is also fitted with alloy match spool.
In reply to Post #8
Not really in the market for one tbh, the first one I used I think was a daiwa and more recently an Abu. I'd Swapped reels with a mate for a session, he kept getting tangles and hated using my pin, we Swapped back after an hour.
I love using my pins in general but trotting especially, there's just something about it I don't get with fixed spool/closed face reels.
@belch, I probably shouldn't say this as mine will be for sale soon, but the rolling pin is overrated imo, you can cast it 50 yards but it takes a week to wind it in as the line bed is about 3 inch diameter, it's no good for trotting, crap with mono, and not great for carp as if the fish swims towards you you have no chance of keeping a tight line. If you want to roll meat down a small river with braid mainline then yeh it's good, for any other situation, get something else.
I'll have to sell mine on ebay now
Not really in the market for one tbh, the first one I used I think was a daiwa and more recently an Abu. I'd Swapped reels with a mate for a session, he kept getting tangles and hated using my pin, we Swapped back after an hour.
I love using my pins in general but trotting especially, there's just something about it I don't get with fixed spool/closed face reels.
@belch, I probably shouldn't say this as mine will be for sale soon, but the rolling pin is overrated imo, you can cast it 50 yards but it takes a week to wind it in as the line bed is about 3 inch diameter, it's no good for trotting, crap with mono, and not great for carp as if the fish swims towards you you have no chance of keeping a tight line. If you want to roll meat down a small river with braid mainline then yeh it's good, for any other situation, get something else.
I'll have to sell mine on ebay now
In reply to Post #9
I'm a big fan of drennan lines for long trotting.
Drennan supplex fluorocarbon is very good as with its name it's very supple. I use it on the pin (the proper way with the line coming off the top and no line card) it helps to moisten the line (sub 5lb) on the drum, particularly when it's windy and a little cold and your fingers struggle being on a metal drum trotting for a few hours this time of year.
Preston innovations reflo fluorocarbon is another excellent line with good knot strength.
I like pins it puts you in direct control of float to make minuscule adjustments with just a finger stroke - granted I've been using them for 10 years plus now.
I'm a big fan of drennan lines for long trotting.
Drennan supplex fluorocarbon is very good as with its name it's very supple. I use it on the pin (the proper way with the line coming off the top and no line card) it helps to moisten the line (sub 5lb) on the drum, particularly when it's windy and a little cold and your fingers struggle being on a metal drum trotting for a few hours this time of year.
Preston innovations reflo fluorocarbon is another excellent line with good knot strength.
I like pins it puts you in direct control of float to make minuscule adjustments with just a finger stroke - granted I've been using them for 10 years plus now.
In reply to Post #1
Used it years ago for some surface fishing, it worked really well for me, it had a pinkish tinge to it but I was using float stops on it and moving them regularly and the line actually split into strands after a while, bit like Kryston multi-strand but bigger pieces, put me off.
Whilst it floated to start like all mono's once water ingress I had to add some floating treatment, from memory it behaved well.
Used it years ago for some surface fishing, it worked really well for me, it had a pinkish tinge to it but I was using float stops on it and moving them regularly and the line actually split into strands after a while, bit like Kryston multi-strand but bigger pieces, put me off.
Whilst it floated to start like all mono's once water ingress I had to add some floating treatment, from memory it behaved well.
In reply to Post #9
. . .I'd heard that about the RW (re trotting specifically) but one plus is it has a ratchet!
Haven't used my Lincoln in anger yet but by all accounts/reviews its a great all round pin -
4.5" and is made from graphite / polymer alloy so shouldn't be too cold on my pinkies . . also side casts for longer chucks if needed . . .no ratchet though so no good for stalking with a light ledger . . .might use it for freelining crust in the summer tho . .!
Not sure whether I'm going to fish off the top or bottom of spool just yet . . .will probably start off the bottom first and go from there . . .
. . .I'd heard that about the RW (re trotting specifically) but one plus is it has a ratchet!
Haven't used my Lincoln in anger yet but by all accounts/reviews its a great all round pin -
4.5" and is made from graphite / polymer alloy so shouldn't be too cold on my pinkies . . also side casts for longer chucks if needed . . .no ratchet though so no good for stalking with a light ledger . . .might use it for freelining crust in the summer tho . .!
Not sure whether I'm going to fish off the top or bottom of spool just yet . . .will probably start off the bottom first and go from there . . .
In reply to Post #12
Surely it's got a ratchet? It needs something to stop the spool turning when you don't want it to or it'll be a nightmare, and a centrepin ratchet screaming is my favourite bite alarm
Most of my pins I have the line off the top, my Fred crouch I have the line off the bottom as I use that for stalking when I'm carp fishing. I had a few incidents when loading the other way, batting the drum to take up slack in the wrong direction as I'd been using fixed spools 5 minutes before. No point fighting muscle memory.
It does help in wind to have it off the top, and I find casting easier(won't apply to yours). a lot of ratchet mechanisms don't work well in reverse, you have to flip the pawl over on most I've had.
Surely it's got a ratchet? It needs something to stop the spool turning when you don't want it to or it'll be a nightmare, and a centrepin ratchet screaming is my favourite bite alarm
Most of my pins I have the line off the top, my Fred crouch I have the line off the bottom as I use that for stalking when I'm carp fishing. I had a few incidents when loading the other way, batting the drum to take up slack in the wrong direction as I'd been using fixed spools 5 minutes before. No point fighting muscle memory.
It does help in wind to have it off the top, and I find casting easier(won't apply to yours). a lot of ratchet mechanisms don't work well in reverse, you have to flip the pawl over on most I've had.
In reply to Post #13
. . nope - Lincoln has a switch to lock the spool (and stop it from turning completely) so when in side cast mode it doesn't move . . .also for when transporting rod made up etc. Only thing you could do to ledger (without holding onto the rod/reel) is a small clothes peg to act as a spool brake . .
. . nope - Lincoln has a switch to lock the spool (and stop it from turning completely) so when in side cast mode it doesn't move . . .also for when transporting rod made up etc. Only thing you could do to ledger (without holding onto the rod/reel) is a small clothes peg to act as a spool brake . .
In reply to Post #14
Has anyone got any of this line in a draw anywhere I'm after a spool of it in 4or 5lb bs or half a spool just need a bit to try something on a rig cheers
Has anyone got any of this line in a draw anywhere I'm after a spool of it in 4or 5lb bs or half a spool just need a bit to try something on a rig cheers