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Books on silty waters (13 posts / 1,682 views)
Irishcarp Irishcarp
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Post #1 22 Sep 2020 17:09
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Has anyone any recommendations for books where the author is mostly fishing silty venues. I'm thinking of the Shropshire and Cheshire Meres etc? A lot of books are based around Pit fishing.
blackfield blackfield
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Post #2 22 Sep 2020 17:34
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In reply to Post #1
Tim Paisley's books would be a good starting point. A lot of the waters he used to fish are silty meres. What kind of info are you looking for?
Irishcarp Irishcarp
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Post #3 22 Sep 2020 22:46
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In reply to Post #2
Cheers. Just looking for inspiration really! Baiting strategies, time of year, rigs etc etc I love reading how anglers tackle these type of waters. I've found a few good articles by scouring my stash of Carpworld mags but always looking for other sources. I've read one of Tim's books and while it was OK, I'm not a huge fan of his writing.
mark1009
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Post #4 23 Sep 2020 08:34
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In reply to Post #3
Sounds like some of Frank Warwicks ideas would be worthwhile studying.
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #5 23 Sep 2020 08:58
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In reply to Post #4
Having cut my teeth on the gravel pis of the Midlands I was looking for a seamless transition to the meres of Cheshire and Shropshire. Ha!

You are right to get an insight into waters created during the last ice age rather than during the construction of the M1.

Seriously, when taking on one Cheshire Mere back in the early 90's an angler with some experience of the place suggested my best course of action was to visit to the overlooking church, and pray. It worked for him after 3 yrs of blanking. I stole a bite from the edge during my first summer and it still ranks as the best fish of my life. It was stocked soon after and it lost its charm.
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #6 23 Sep 2020 09:10
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Not books but Nick Burrage who used to post on here did quite a few vlogs on the Mangrove and Birch a few years back was a fair bit of content, some vlogs had his ideas and takes on fishing these lakes, I know Nick and he did rather well especially on the Mangrove one season accounting for over 100 bites and about 75% of the captures that year, the man was from Bridgnorth area and grew up fishing the silty mere's/waters, might be something of interest.
blackfield blackfield
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Post #7 23 Sep 2020 17:21
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In reply to Post #3
Writing style or not, Tim's books have a lot of info on silt fishing, which I found really useful when fishing a very silty lake in Cheshire back in the early 90's.

Things I learned thru his writing and ideas which I adopted and adapted;-

Use bottom/balanced as the fish do get there heads right in the silt.

Braided /supple rigs.

Adjust the top bead/stop on heli-rigs to prevent the rig being dragged too deeply into silt.

No need to use heavy leads. Even a relatively light lead of 2oz plugs in to the silt and enhances the bolt effect.

Fish spots where the lead doesn't plug in as deeply if you can find them.

Always fish a bloodworm bed if you locate one. Often done through good luck by finding them on the hook on the retrieve.

Avoid foul smelling area of silt.

I'll now wait for someone to come back and say all this is bollox. Best of luck
Halfcentury
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Post #8 23 Sep 2020 20:07
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In reply to Post #1
Post 7 is a very good starting point. Don't waste money on a book, follow this lead and think for yourself.
boonylocks boonylocks
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Post #9 23 Sep 2020 20:33
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In reply to Post #7
I fish in Cheshire a lot, some very silty meres and estate lakes. That all sounds spot on to me. What I would add to it is don't take too much notice of stuff written specifically about fishing in silt on pits, it's a bit different to fishing silt in a lake thats been there hundreds or thousand of years. Another thing to think about is the fishes mouths they tend to be quite soft and I think slightly more sensitive to touch in a silty old lake vs a gravel pit with a hard bottom. So if you're on fish but not getting takes fining down the hooklink and using a smaller hook with a beaked point can help too. I've always done well fishing up against reed beds and pads in silty lakes, more than in pits, maybe that's coincindence or how I fish.
viking
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Post #10 24 Sep 2020 09:44
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In reply to Post #7
Any particular book you could recommend?

blackfield blackfield
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Post #11 24 Sep 2020 11:37
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In reply to Post #10
Carp fishing

To catch a carp

From the bivvy 1. More a mindset diary book, but still has some useful info.

All of the above are Tim's books.

Good pieces in Paul Selmans book Carp reflections on fishing Redesmere and the Mangrove.

There's also a piece in an old Carp Society Book, Carp Hunters

I haven't read it, but expect Frank Warwick's book every bit of blue will have a section on this. Frank did very well on Redesmere, back in the day.

Hope this helps.
viking
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Post #12 24 Sep 2020 14:24
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In reply to Post #11
Thanks mate, I will place a couple of orders.
I fish silty waters and do ok on bottom baits but always nice to pick up some new approaches.
As written above , fishing near any lillies or other weed seem to be a good approach a lot of the time.
suffokandy
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Post #13 24 Sep 2020 21:17
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As already suggested ,books by Tim Paisley,Frank Warwick a good starting point. If on FB maybe message Simon Crow? I think hes spent a fair amount of time on some of the Siltier meres.
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