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Hormone in Carp Baits (336 posts / 61,018 views)
AideyKaye
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Post #122 22 Oct 2021 16:01
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This is what happens when you put salesmen on a pedestal.

"power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

If these claims are correct and those using the chemical are knowingly using it and knowingly know of their dangers to ecology, they need to be in the job centre by monday. No ifs or buts.
scozza
Posts: 18,429
Post #123 22 Oct 2021 16:43
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Similar thoughts to me. People have been using it, simple, only a fool would think any different due to the amount of feedback see

Makes a mockery out of their catches, watercraft and all
bluebeat13
Posts: 2,168
Post #124 22 Oct 2021 16:51
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On what actual evidence is that statement based though?
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,246
Post #125 22 Oct 2021 17:01
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could be something like this that seems legit? "ULTRABITE uses the CEFAS produced fish attractant"
link
bluebeat13
Posts: 2,168
Post #126 22 Oct 2021 17:11
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That stuff has been around for donkeys, more than likely a few threads on it on here from years ago.
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,246
Post #127 22 Oct 2021 17:18
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well what's being used is same principal, just maybe not as legit
bluebeat13
Posts: 2,168
Post #128 22 Oct 2021 18:05
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I guess in the same way that Calpol is the same principle as Tramadol.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #129 22 Oct 2021 18:23
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scozza
Posts: 18,429
Post #130 22 Oct 2021 18:52
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The obvious, you dont get smoke without fire and the carp fishing grapevine is usually not far off

Are they going to admit to it, are they ****, catches would loose all credability and they would be frowned on forever more wherever they went
mark1009
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Post #131 22 Oct 2021 19:51
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I tried it many years ago when it was brought out. Didn't seem to make any difference to catch rate, so stopped using it.
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,246
Post #132 22 Oct 2021 20:02
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The real deal in proper quantities however obviously tells a different story
bluebeat13
Posts: 2,168
Post #133 22 Oct 2021 20:48
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So the evidence you have that they definitely used an illegal pharmaceutical ingredient is that the ‘carp grapevine' says so? The biggest bunch of bitchy, gossiping old women around
scozza
Posts: 18,429
Post #134 23 Oct 2021 07:10
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It is, but I depends who you talk to. Like I said, you don't get smoke without fire 🔥

Is using hormones a problem if it is not damaging to the fish or the environment, don't think so myself. If it's dangerous for the user than more the fool them but you could say that with a few ingredients

What is wrong though is, if your using hormones and not admitting to it, that's cheating everybody else really for me

Yep I'm using them, interesting...
Spod Spod
Posts: 13,419
Post #135 23 Oct 2021 08:33
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Well if it is all true there could be a few Carpology articles need rewriting from, "no bull**** just good solid angling" to "complete bull****, nothing like good angling"....
AideyKaye
Posts: 1,013
Post #136 24 Oct 2021 16:17
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How much have you heard on the carp grapevine yourself that you would not dare to put on here? Plenty I bet.

We are a very small community in the grand scheme of things, however due to the balance of things, defamation laws and threats of legal action isn't far away.

Realistically, who is going to put their head above the parapet and say "Right, Angler A is using banned substances, Tackle Manufacturer B nicked fish for his french water, Syndicate owner C got caught moving dodgy fish in France and does it here too, Bait company D sells coke from its warehouse"

Who's going to risk a CCJ/Mortgage/Job for that? We(some) know it happens, has happened, but I don't have X, Y or Z type of money, and money talks, hence why these practices occur. It takes a brave soul like those who go on podcasts to go against the grain and out these people, thankfully it doesn't take much to put the puzzle together. After all, small communities know which colour underwear you have out on the washing line within no time.
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