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Otters and the real damage (268 posts / 123,145 views)
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #135 16 Feb 2014 08:28
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You will see something in the not too distant future mate...its a very complex issues and very time consuming.

one of the reasons this issue is so slow on the up take I would suspect is because its appears that its only one part of angling kicking up a fuss.....and that's carp anglers
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #136 16 Feb 2014 13:49
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I read this earlier today


The Dorset Wildlife Trust has issued a warning to householders about the threat and suggests one option would be to keep frogs and newts instead of expensive fish, or protect ponds with metal grids.

Spokesman Clive Martin said: ‘Otters have discovered that breakfast, lunch and dinner is provided by ponds.'

Graham Scholey, of the Environment Agency, warned that otters are protected and anyone attempting to kill, harm or disturb them can be fined £5,000 or jailed for six months.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086794/Warning-otters-snatch-expensive-koi-carp-garden-ponds.html#ixzz2tUYhBnab


What fantastic advice hey....they cant even face up to it can they
fairbrass fairbrass
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Post #137 16 Feb 2014 13:56
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basically admitting there is a problem but not willing to do anything about it
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #138 16 Feb 2014 14:16
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exactly.....telling pple to give up keeping koi carp and keep newts and frogs...good lord how responsible is that!
fairbrass fairbrass
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Post #139 16 Feb 2014 15:39
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next we will be getting told to keep windows closed at all times incase they get into our fish tanks,
To me that statement graham scholey made just proves they are not interested in our side of things, they are just willing to turn a blind eye to it and let the otters run wild till there is nothing left!
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #140 16 Feb 2014 19:07
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I was told when something miffed me big style when in my teens, by a wise old man "Don't worry what goes around always comes around - might be 2 years, might be10 years down the line, but it always does"
Up to now it has always proved to be right, and sometimes in some very strange ways!

I would put money on the likes of the EA, RSPB, English Nature etc, etc....... having some very major problems in the coming years, with being blinded to reality with pure political correctness.

They should have learned from the past (Most of civilisation normally does, or suffer the consequences if they ignore it!)
For Otter Hounds to have been breed, there must have been a very good reason. For the Scottish to incorporate Otter Traps into Dry Stone Walls - they did not do this for sport/fun.
mark1009
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Post #141 16 Feb 2014 20:38
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I bet if you have a lovely salmon river and it becomes infested with otters and your salmon are suddenly becoming depleted then that is when you get a few otter hounds in.
I wonder what gamekeepers and salmon river owners do to deter otters.
i do not expect any other answer other than otters do not eat salmon so it is not a problem.
MattH85 MattH85
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Post #142 17 Feb 2014 14:26
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I asked one that question yesterday morning, he said they never have any issues with them.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #143 17 Feb 2014 16:22
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The river Camel has been heavily predated by otters..The BAA had a web cam on the river not so long ago ..the cam showed footage of the otter killing and swimming...

ask a member though,do you have a predation problem and they will answer no...!!

Ask Roger in the local tackle shop which is primarily game fishing ,and he will tell you that they are a menace..BAA are more worried about a small amount of escapee perch in the Camel than predation from Lutra lutra....,gotta keep the environmentalist types happy ....eh....BAA.....and brush it under the carpet..








BAA= Bodmin Anglers................
gregrot gregrot
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Post #144 18 Feb 2014 19:43
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Not sure if this has been posted before but here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loz6t1HWYO8
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #145 18 Feb 2014 20:27
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Ok...bear with me....my trail camera picked this up the other night

This is a previously ottered 32lb carp I set as bait



A fox Approaches




It hears something approaching




He stoops, Mouth open, ready to bark and "flight"





Fox runs and Dog Otter appears to feed on carcass






Darkieallard
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Post #146 18 Feb 2014 21:07
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Great footage Joss
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #147 18 Feb 2014 21:17
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ive got some video of a smaller female...but don't know how to put it up on here
keeperboy
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Post #148 18 Feb 2014 21:37
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So they do go back to old carcasses then?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #149 18 Feb 2014 21:46
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