In reply to Post #105
How many " cut tails" are There. Seems nearly every lake has one.
I'm not going to watch the vid. If the rule says pictures in water then that's what should be done. If the fish was weighed and photos done immediately after capture it wouldn't have been so lively and could have been weighed, pictured and returned in a few minutes.
How many " cut tails" are There. Seems nearly every lake has one.
I'm not going to watch the vid. If the rule says pictures in water then that's what should be done. If the fish was weighed and photos done immediately after capture it wouldn't have been so lively and could have been weighed, pictured and returned in a few minutes.
In reply to Post #105
I don't think it'll grow back. When I tried to find the video I came across a shaun harrison/carp ology article on tail damage, shaun stated that if the fish is young and actively growing it can regenerate, but once its reached its full size it won't.
I'd assume a 50lber hasn't got much growth left in it
I don't think it'll grow back. When I tried to find the video I came across a shaun harrison/carp ology article on tail damage, shaun stated that if the fish is young and actively growing it can regenerate, but once its reached its full size it won't.
I'd assume a 50lber hasn't got much growth left in it
Is it me or do all these fast growing imports seem a bit more delicate than your slow growing home breads. Just a thought. 
In reply to Post #109
Carp are carp aren't they, how they get handled is not down to the fish
In the instance of this water and similar ones, sounds hard line but its not such a big thing, they are all replaceable and they will have back up fish coming through. Not some old highly sort after survivor that has been swimming round for 50 years that will never be replaced or if it is, not in our generation, that's the real difference to me. Easily replaceable, lbs, oz, simple
I don't have a problem with these types or waters either, France on la doorstep, absolutely perfect for the working man. I just have one single problem, anybody trying to claim a record with such fish, other than that, crack on for me
Carp are carp aren't they, how they get handled is not down to the fish
In the instance of this water and similar ones, sounds hard line but its not such a big thing, they are all replaceable and they will have back up fish coming through. Not some old highly sort after survivor that has been swimming round for 50 years that will never be replaced or if it is, not in our generation, that's the real difference to me. Easily replaceable, lbs, oz, simple
I don't have a problem with these types or waters either, France on la doorstep, absolutely perfect for the working man. I just have one single problem, anybody trying to claim a record with such fish, other than that, crack on for me
In reply to Post #110
Nicely put 👍
Nicely put 👍
In reply to Post #110
Well said
Well said
In reply to Post #110
I get your point mate and understand, although I do agree it is hard line approach to take and it isn't really the point.
No Carp is less worthy of the correct care than any other, (as you sort of allude to) and in reality it shouldn't make any difference if it was a 50lb Israeli Holme Fen fish or the Burghfield Common for example. Agreed, the Holme Fen fish could be replaced by a similar fish but you could not replace the BC....doesn't make it any less of a shame though....a Carp is a Carp after all as you say...!
One thing is for sure though, if the captor had done that to the BC by breaking the rules, (not sure what they are on Burghfield) he would have been receiving death threats by now!
I get your point mate and understand, although I do agree it is hard line approach to take and it isn't really the point.
No Carp is less worthy of the correct care than any other, (as you sort of allude to) and in reality it shouldn't make any difference if it was a 50lb Israeli Holme Fen fish or the Burghfield Common for example. Agreed, the Holme Fen fish could be replaced by a similar fish but you could not replace the BC....doesn't make it any less of a shame though....a Carp is a Carp after all as you say...!
One thing is for sure though, if the captor had done that to the BC by breaking the rules, (not sure what they are on Burghfield) he would have been receiving death threats by now!
For me the worst bit is they apparently put it back without telling the owners!
Its ok to make a mistake be it ill judgement, accidental etc but have the decency to take ownership and hold your hands up.
I am sure the owner could have done whatever was required for the fish if informed. Not sure whats happened to it since however.
Its ok to make a mistake be it ill judgement, accidental etc but have the decency to take ownership and hold your hands up.
I am sure the owner could have done whatever was required for the fish if informed. Not sure whats happened to it since however.
In reply to Post #113
If a captor had done that to one of the pinnacles of English carp fishing I could understand the outrage!
This is just a 50lb stock fish, in there to earn some money and put a bend in some punters rod, easy to replace, like a conveyor belt, always another to back it up, not a big deal at all for me unless people want to make it one? Maybe it's a big deal for the owners (£) or people trying to get a like on the net?
It's unfortunate what has happened, it's down to the fishery to set the rules, sounds like they have and somebody has not followed them reading through this, if you are looking for blame, who is at fault?
If a captor had done that to one of the pinnacles of English carp fishing I could understand the outrage!
This is just a 50lb stock fish, in there to earn some money and put a bend in some punters rod, easy to replace, like a conveyor belt, always another to back it up, not a big deal at all for me unless people want to make it one? Maybe it's a big deal for the owners (£) or people trying to get a like on the net?
It's unfortunate what has happened, it's down to the fishery to set the rules, sounds like they have and somebody has not followed them reading through this, if you are looking for blame, who is at fault?
In reply to Post #115
Very dismissive attitude mate for the quarry we are all expected to respect so much, fair play though, you are entitled to your opinion and obviously don't give a flying fig about fish of that nature...
Very dismissive attitude mate for the quarry we are all expected to respect so much, fair play though, you are entitled to your opinion and obviously don't give a flying fig about fish of that nature...
In reply to Post #114
Agreed. They did put it back without informing the owner but little did they know the Facebook live video had been sent to him within minutes of it happening....
....hence why the entire party was immediately kicked off and banned.
Agreed. They did put it back without informing the owner but little did they know the Facebook live video had been sent to him within minutes of it happening....
....hence why the entire party was immediately kicked off and banned.
In reply to Post #116
Wouldnt say I did not give a flying ****. I have fished for all types of fish and treat them all the same, with due care an attention. I also understand what they are all about. It's that simple for me
Wouldnt say I did not give a flying ****. I have fished for all types of fish and treat them all the same, with due care an attention. I also understand what they are all about. It's that simple for me
In reply to Post #98
My other post
Is it safe to encourage anglers to get into the water? I know anglers do but what about the safety of the angler?
What if you was on your own or it was winter, would you get in?
No problem on a sunny day and there's someone to help if you take a fall or if you're wearing waders and they fill with water but is it really wise to make it more or less compulsory to get in?
One suggestion is to unhook it in the net and let it swim away. That's not always possible or as easy as it seems. Assuming you can actually reach the fish there's no guarantee it will will behave itself and not thrash around.
My other post
Is it safe to encourage anglers to get into the water? I know anglers do but what about the safety of the angler?
What if you was on your own or it was winter, would you get in?
No problem on a sunny day and there's someone to help if you take a fall or if you're wearing waders and they fill with water but is it really wise to make it more or less compulsory to get in?
One suggestion is to unhook it in the net and let it swim away. That's not always possible or as easy as it seems. Assuming you can actually reach the fish there's no guarantee it will will behave itself and not thrash around.
In reply to Post #119
To safely enforce that rule there really needs to be purpose built shallows at various spots on the lake. It is a health and safety gauntlet they're running telling punters to get in the drink as you say.
A modified float tube with a mesh cradle up front is what you want... when somebody makes one YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
To safely enforce that rule there really needs to be purpose built shallows at various spots on the lake. It is a health and safety gauntlet they're running telling punters to get in the drink as you say.
A modified float tube with a mesh cradle up front is what you want... when somebody makes one YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
In reply to Post #120
Add the fact that you have to get the fish out, on a mat, unhook and weigh before even being sure it fits the criteria of needing to be pictured in the lake.
Add the fact that you have to get the fish out, on a mat, unhook and weigh before even being sure it fits the criteria of needing to be pictured in the lake.