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Old-Cornishman
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Post #91 31 Aug 2022 13:40
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I agree with all of that. We should have been preparing for this for years.

The days of cheap energy are gone unfortunately.
Fossil fuels running out, those who have an abundance will push the prices up / hold everyone else to ransom and eventually cut off supplies to keep the rest for themselves. What we are seeing now is just a taster of what's to come.
Climate change should have been tackled long ago with more investment in efficiency, coupled with cleaner and alternative energy sources. Politicians just work on short term as substantial investment will push prices up and no doubt lose them votes.

Similar situation is going to happen with food in the future if we carry on as we are.

mal mal
Posts: 8,986
Post #92 31 Aug 2022 14:00
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Definitely agree on the lack of investment in responses to climate change. Renewable and green energy have been demonised by politicians and companies with vested interests only looking at (relatively speaking) short term gains.
Even now, one of Truss' vote winner ideas is to cut the green levy - like that's the problem instead of the billions in profits.

I'm seriously worried that millions of people are going to be in real trouble. And it doesn't make me an 'expert' to see that it's not right that mp's are claiming over £2000 in expenses for energy whilst pensioners are facing anywhere between 30 - 70 per cent of their state pension gone on heating their homes and having a hot meal.

Small business owners are saying that they will have no option but to close as the price cap doesn't apply to them. So there goes another key aspect to the economy.

Its a big ****ty mess
Old-Cornishman
Posts: 688
Post #93 31 Aug 2022 14:04
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Batteries are certainly becoming more viable and probably a must have for a new system.
I had a very quick chat about this with the electrician who serviced our panels. He thinks there is an add on that will charge your batteries just with your exported surplus but doesn't know much about the system yet. How good it is remains to be seen as it's still early days apparently but I think it's definitely worth looking into. There are off peak battery charging systems but the off peak prices have also gone silly now.
As a half way house I have a box that dumps our surplus into our water tank so that heats our water.
Batteries later perhaps.
ocelot ocelot
Posts: 1,802
Post #94 31 Aug 2022 14:16
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I'm neither, not sure you can say the same with ridiculous unfounded statements like post#83
ocelot ocelot
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Post #95 31 Aug 2022 14:20
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The food situation is obviously solvable considering the world currently produces double the calories each person needs per day.
Waste for profit?
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #96 31 Aug 2022 14:43
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Yes joke ahh, let's cut there wages then if its nothing to do with them, could not make it up.
JasonM JasonM
Posts: 1,764
Post #97 31 Aug 2022 14:46
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Really for decades we've had the same continents with starving children due to warfare and corruption ?

Now due to theses energy costs and the rising prices for fertilizer the UN is predicting a very bleak outlook for 2023

Though I do concur we eat too much, plates my parents ate dinner from were no bigger that tea plates
sundance sundance
Posts: 6,762
Post #98 31 Aug 2022 14:52
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It's a big gaff. We have an East and West Wing lol
Probably could do a lot to economise. I will look into it.
My teen running a gaming PC while on his phone
And taking 3 'showers' a day probably doesn't help lol
JasonM JasonM
Posts: 1,764
Post #99 31 Aug 2022 14:59
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Indeed for us we just get occasional visits from the grandkids so are quite fortunate.
sundance sundance
Posts: 6,762
Post #100 31 Aug 2022 15:04
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In reply to Post #87
MSE has advised that for those that are interested.
Keep paying your DD but tell them what you can afford. Get an agreement. They claim to be trying to help.

Why not cancel the DD? Well in .many cases they can and will
Put you on a higher tariff if not paying by DD. So could cost you
100s more over a year.

Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,089
Post #101 31 Aug 2022 16:45
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When it comes to these matters I go with what Martin Lewis says. Unless I haven't been keeping up to date he's been saying not to fix
mal mal
Posts: 8,986
Post #102 31 Aug 2022 16:55
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He's updated a bit - suggests looking at the percentage rise in your costs and if you can find a fix that's lower then obviously to go for it.

I'm one for following his advice too



I went for a fix because it was not a huge amount more than my current one and I could only see things getting worse before they got better - especially given the 2 potential new PM's ....

Utility warehouse have a really good deal for variable rates according to the MSE energy club website. I was tempted by that one tbh.
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,089
Post #103 31 Aug 2022 17:05
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We got what we voted for.
A government with a big majority to stop the opposition making a stalemate.
To get that majority a number of anti Brexiters must of voted for the present government.
If the opposition had acted differently they may have found themselves in a much better position now.

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #104 31 Aug 2022 17:08
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The MSE energy club used to be a doddle, I changed providers a couple of times.
I will have to investigate what you say
RKB
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Post #105 31 Aug 2022 17:12
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We didn't really. We would if we had proportional representation though.

"The disproportionality between votes and seats can also be calculated in terms of votes-per-seat-won. In 2019 the Conservatives got one seat for every 38,264 votes, while Labour got one seat for every 50,837 votes. It took many more votes to elect a Lib Dem (336,038) and Green MP (866,435), but far fewer to elect an SNP MP (25,883)."

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/general-election-2019-turning-votes-into-seats/

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