In reply to Post #82
About the same time as me, happy memories of 900g of Nash Tangy Squid in my velcro bait bag to last for a four day bank holiday session with practically empty banks.
Velcro bait bags you dont see them anymore.
About the same time as me, happy memories of 900g of Nash Tangy Squid in my velcro bait bag to last for a four day bank holiday session with practically empty banks.
Velcro bait bags you dont see them anymore.
In reply to Post #85
Prostitution Joss has always been classed as the oldest profession certainly longer than a boilie roller/manufacturer which started around the 1980's
Prostitution Joss has always been classed as the oldest profession certainly longer than a boilie roller/manufacturer which started around the 1980's
In reply to Post #93
In reply to Post #90
Great comment, one hundred percent agree with you,spot bloomin on mate..
Great comment, one hundred percent agree with you,spot bloomin on mate..
In reply to Post #92
Funny you should say that, Tangey Squid become very popular on our lake due to a chap called Spikey Haired Paul, he was what you would call a 'field tester' nowadays. The start of larger amounts of baits being used.
Funny you should say that, Tangey Squid become very popular on our lake due to a chap called Spikey Haired Paul, he was what you would call a 'field tester' nowadays. The start of larger amounts of baits being used.
In reply to Post #84
Especially as we cannot increase prices as carp anglers don't understand what baits cost.
My profit margin has gone from 2 quid a kilo when I started to well under a pound now and that's before taxes.
Well formulated boilies shouldn't have to cost less than 9 quid to the consumer, not when you add all the other costs involved. ( yes I've seen basic recipes on here than can be rolled at home for 3.50 but that's a completely different type of bait ).
One of my baits contains an 8% mix of acid and rennet casein as well as a good percentage of whey protein and calcium Caseinate, all have doubled in price trade. And yet if that cost suddenly announces itself in the boilie price, people think you're trying to milk them dry. ( no pun intended for both milk proteins and rent boy references)
Especially as we cannot increase prices as carp anglers don't understand what baits cost.
My profit margin has gone from 2 quid a kilo when I started to well under a pound now and that's before taxes.
Well formulated boilies shouldn't have to cost less than 9 quid to the consumer, not when you add all the other costs involved. ( yes I've seen basic recipes on here than can be rolled at home for 3.50 but that's a completely different type of bait ).
One of my baits contains an 8% mix of acid and rennet casein as well as a good percentage of whey protein and calcium Caseinate, all have doubled in price trade. And yet if that cost suddenly announces itself in the boilie price, people think you're trying to milk them dry. ( no pun intended for both milk proteins and rent boy references)
In reply to Post #97
you can increase prices, no point working for nothing.
Ive just increased my consultancy work, if they dont want it, thats fine, go elsewhere
you can increase prices, no point working for nothing.
Ive just increased my consultancy work, if they dont want it, thats fine, go elsewhere
In reply to Post #97
Maybe people will finally realise that putting expensive milks and animal meals in fish bait is a bit silly.
I appreciate the thought that goes into formulating a good boilie, but my honest opinion is that most bait recipes are formulated as much for the satisfaction of the bait maker as anything. The all seem to like to play the mad scientist with secret potions up their sleeves.
I know it's the same old one, but why pay £9 a kilo when you can get a 25kg sack of pellet with the £millions worth of aquaculture science behind it for £30 delivered? Not to mention a few tins of corn.
I can see sense prevailing rather than peoples willingness to spend more increasing.
Not a stab at you Mozzi, just my thoughts. It can't be sustainable to throw £50 into the lake every trip on top of everything else.
Maybe people will finally realise that putting expensive milks and animal meals in fish bait is a bit silly.
I appreciate the thought that goes into formulating a good boilie, but my honest opinion is that most bait recipes are formulated as much for the satisfaction of the bait maker as anything. The all seem to like to play the mad scientist with secret potions up their sleeves.
I know it's the same old one, but why pay £9 a kilo when you can get a 25kg sack of pellet with the £millions worth of aquaculture science behind it for £30 delivered? Not to mention a few tins of corn.
I can see sense prevailing rather than peoples willingness to spend more increasing.
Not a stab at you Mozzi, just my thoughts. It can't be sustainable to throw £50 into the lake every trip on top of everything else.
In reply to Post #97
Don't see eny alternative, you have a good product and if people want to go else where then ok
a good bait I would have thought sells itself maybe
Don't see eny alternative, you have a good product and if people want to go else where then ok
a good bait I would have thought sells itself maybe
In reply to Post #99
110% agree
all this spout about wonderful ingredients that 99.9% of people can get hold of, and formulating...there no hard graft in it...its open for everyone to see very easily these days.
Buy in bulk, get it cheaper...simples
110% agree
all this spout about wonderful ingredients that 99.9% of people can get hold of, and formulating...there no hard graft in it...its open for everyone to see very easily these days.
Buy in bulk, get it cheaper...simples
Is OMC doing bait now?
In reply to Post #101
Its not all aboit the ingredients. I get my bait from a very well regarded bait man. Not only am i paying for his ingredients, im also paying for his wealth of knowledge and experience. I dont use loads of boilie though, and dont know many people that do £50 of bait a session. If im intending to put a decent amount out, i quite regularly bulk the bait up with pellet, corn, hemp etc.
Id rather my bait man put his prices up a bit than go into a shop and spend more on some of the mass produced stuff thats turned out by some companies. Od rather it in his pocket than nash or mainlines. And It mostly goes into my syndicate, so i do care about the quality and nutritional value of what goes into the lake
Its not all aboit the ingredients. I get my bait from a very well regarded bait man. Not only am i paying for his ingredients, im also paying for his wealth of knowledge and experience. I dont use loads of boilie though, and dont know many people that do £50 of bait a session. If im intending to put a decent amount out, i quite regularly bulk the bait up with pellet, corn, hemp etc.
Id rather my bait man put his prices up a bit than go into a shop and spend more on some of the mass produced stuff thats turned out by some companies. Od rather it in his pocket than nash or mainlines. And It mostly goes into my syndicate, so i do care about the quality and nutritional value of what goes into the lake
In reply to Post #103
Its not all aboit the ingredients. I get my bait from a very well regarded bait man. Not only am i paying for his ingredients, im also paying for his wealth of knowledge and experience
Last bit spot on for me, anybody can knock a bait up nowadays, separating the wheat from the chaff is the difference, experience and knowledge is another edge all together
Its not all aboit the ingredients. I get my bait from a very well regarded bait man. Not only am i paying for his ingredients, im also paying for his wealth of knowledge and experience
Last bit spot on for me, anybody can knock a bait up nowadays, separating the wheat from the chaff is the difference, experience and knowledge is another edge all together
In reply to Post #99
Thing is, then you have got all the agro of baiting up, if you're doing short little sessions people like to fire out a few boilies and keep disturbance to a minimum, which let's be honest, unless you're fishing in the margins, spombing out pellets is hardly subtle.
Thing is, then you have got all the agro of baiting up, if you're doing short little sessions people like to fire out a few boilies and keep disturbance to a minimum, which let's be honest, unless you're fishing in the margins, spombing out pellets is hardly subtle.
In reply to Post #101
No hard graft? Behave 😂
No hard graft? Behave 😂