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Hormone in Carp Baits (336 posts / 61,008 views)
Baitman Baitman
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Post #92 21 Oct 2021 22:38
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Hey, we've all been there... Sounds like the grafton back in the 70s
Theblankfather
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Post #93 22 Oct 2021 01:17
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jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #94 22 Oct 2021 07:52
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I agree with this. I have listened to the pod cast, read the paper posted and done some research (albeit it google based) and i get the impression that the hormone is what brings the fish together at the start of spawning. The receptors on the fish have evolved to pull it to the biggest concentration of the hormone to give it the best chance of breeding.

I would suspect that an altogether different hormone will trigger the desire for spawning. Im guessing that they turn up sense that there is no opportunity for spawning and the hormonal reaction in the fish is to rebalance their "agitation" leads to a feeding response. In human terms - went to the boozer for a few pints of stella, got the Dutch courage to go on the pull for a bird, realised there were none about so got a kebab on the way home


My suggestion would be for all the leading bait companies to come together as one voice and say "right, we know what happening and we are pretty certain who has been doing it, first to come out and hold there hands up and spill the beans keeps his sponsorship's, the rest are going under the bus".... if some of the people's sole income comes under threat there will be a scramble to survive
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
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Post #95 22 Oct 2021 08:40
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That's just about bang on 👍🏻
wingnuttz wingnuttz
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Post #96 22 Oct 2021 08:48
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This really is a sad state of affairs - If this substance has been used then it will now take a strong person to hold their hand up, considering the amount attention this has now got and the ramifications it could potentitally have with of any sponsors / bait comapnies they and reputation.

CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #97 22 Oct 2021 08:50
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It will probably be brushed under the carpet like everything does these to protect the big companies and high profile anglers. All that really can be done is to ban all use of hormones in fishing by law, if you get caught then the EA ban you for life. Kev is in a bit of a pickle because he has come out and strongly hinted at it. Although not admitted it his reputation is in shatters and if the companies have any sense they will take away his sponsorships... Its whether he takes anyone else down with him.
Winkler
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Post #98 22 Oct 2021 08:51
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This could be true; the fact that these guys are simply using yellow (visible) plastic and catching pretty continuously leads me to assume that what is being fed in to attract the fish is not a food item. They have dropped their guard mentally and will pick up literally anything and I bet their is little food available in the swim.. Possibly the whole spombed bloodworm thing was that the liquid from the bloodworm was a carrier?
bluebeat13
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Post #99 22 Oct 2021 08:53
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You say shatters, I don't have social media, I'm guessing this is all getting blown up more than ten or twelve guys on a fishing forum that 0.01% of angers will read?
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #100 22 Oct 2021 08:58
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This is HUGE, forgot about the fish catching. Its unethical , dangerous and damn right cheating for financial gain and notoriety. Takes everything away that's left which is good in carp angling.
yonny yonny
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Post #101 22 Oct 2021 08:58
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Who exactly will "brush it under the carpet to protect the big companies and high profile anglers"?
I've not seen Kev hint at anything tbf. He said he'd never heard of these hormone products.
bluebeat13
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Post #102 22 Oct 2021 09:01
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But nobody actually knows the truth..
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #103 22 Oct 2021 09:03
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mmm I think if you watched the Nash tackle podcast from 2.28 hrs in and see his reaction. Id have to disagree.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #104 22 Oct 2021 09:04
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it may not come out ever but watch their catch rates plummet next year
yonny yonny
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Post #105 22 Oct 2021 09:04
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I've watched it. He said he'd never heard of the products. Yes he looks sheepish but when someone asks about my edges I probs look exactly the same.
Squimp
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Post #106 22 Oct 2021 09:04
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I don't have social media either; but 2 nights ago I got a text from my barbel fishing mate (I'm not carping at the moment) asking if I'd heard about these rumours. He knew more than me....

He probably asked/told me for 2 reasons:

1. If true, it brings specialist angling into disrepute
2. He knows that I have a ticket for a water where this may have been going on......(but I haven't been fishing it).
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