In reply to Post #90
My thought exactly. Plus if ordering 250ml of Liver you'll get 9kg out of it.
My thought exactly. Plus if ordering 250ml of Liver you'll get 9kg out of it.
In reply to Post #91
so from 5kg of base mix i should end up with 7kg of boilies?
so from 5kg of base mix i should end up with 7kg of boilies?
In reply to Post #92
HG.
Seriously dude. You are getting in a pickle. Just try to stop thinking too much and read what has been suggested to you.
Get yourself a decent base mix and roll it. I know forums are here for advice but there is only so much advice one can receive.
Stop overthinking everything and give making bait a crack. If not go buy some Cell and you will catch.
Good luck young man.
HG.
Seriously dude. You are getting in a pickle. Just try to stop thinking too much and read what has been suggested to you.
Get yourself a decent base mix and roll it. I know forums are here for advice but there is only so much advice one can receive.
Stop overthinking everything and give making bait a crack. If not go buy some Cell and you will catch.
Good luck young man.
In reply to Post #92
Yes
Yes
In reply to Post #92
You'll also be adding eggs, maybe a drop of oil in warmer weather and any other moisture trapped in the baits unless thoroughly air dried.
Personally if I was your age I'd just buy a proven bait to use sparingly. With youth on your side just keep moving and watching for fish to catch which will 100% catch more in the long run and cost less. Then spend precious time and money on important stuff, like females
The 2 or 3 best anglers I know happily use bait out of the bag, a lot of guys on here didn't have the luxury of proven great fish catching baits when they were your age. It's hard to buy a bad bait nowadays
You'll also be adding eggs, maybe a drop of oil in warmer weather and any other moisture trapped in the baits unless thoroughly air dried.
Personally if I was your age I'd just buy a proven bait to use sparingly. With youth on your side just keep moving and watching for fish to catch which will 100% catch more in the long run and cost less. Then spend precious time and money on important stuff, like females
The 2 or 3 best anglers I know happily use bait out of the bag, a lot of guys on here didn't have the luxury of proven great fish catching baits when they were your age. It's hard to buy a bad bait nowadays
Interesting thread to read from top to bottom!
HG will you let us know how you get on and what you ended up going with?
It sounds like some of your hesitation comes from you wanting the bait to be perfect first time round, whilst people are telling you to roll small test batches etc. From what I've seen when you're starting in bait making there's so much trial and error it's going to take you a fare few goes until you've got something you're happy with rolling 'en mass' and using for a long period of time.
I remember starting to take fishing seriously at about 15 and like you would have done anything to keep the cost down! Keep going though bud and hope you get something that you're happy with and catches you some fish.
HG will you let us know how you get on and what you ended up going with?
It sounds like some of your hesitation comes from you wanting the bait to be perfect first time round, whilst people are telling you to roll small test batches etc. From what I've seen when you're starting in bait making there's so much trial and error it's going to take you a fare few goes until you've got something you're happy with rolling 'en mass' and using for a long period of time.
I remember starting to take fishing seriously at about 15 and like you would have done anything to keep the cost down! Keep going though bud and hope you get something that you're happy with and catches you some fish.
In reply to Post #93
Very well said this man
Very well said this man
In reply to Post #97
I shall let you all know how i get on with patshull park! thank you everyone for the kind words and helpful advice. can be very overwhelming when starting out and seeing 500 different ingredients that you dont know what they are and how to use them lol!!!
Yesterday my friend gave me some pop up mix for me to use so i went home and made the pop ups. they turned out very wrong indeed although this was due to the pop up mix itself as it was a very cheap one (500g for £5). baits were all cracked and had white froth all over them and not only that they were a pain to roll and get the consistency right with! shall order some good pop up mix next time from a trusted supplier such as BAF or AA baits. although last nights bait making sesh went badly i am eager to try some more!
I shall let you all know how i get on with patshull park! thank you everyone for the kind words and helpful advice. can be very overwhelming when starting out and seeing 500 different ingredients that you dont know what they are and how to use them lol!!!
Yesterday my friend gave me some pop up mix for me to use so i went home and made the pop ups. they turned out very wrong indeed although this was due to the pop up mix itself as it was a very cheap one (500g for £5). baits were all cracked and had white froth all over them and not only that they were a pain to roll and get the consistency right with! shall order some good pop up mix next time from a trusted supplier such as BAF or AA baits. although last nights bait making sesh went badly i am eager to try some more!
In reply to Post #98
Not used BAFs pop up mix yet but AA baits is good. Rolls nicely. Unsure who's is better for buyouncy but AAs will pop up 48 hours. And I've never left a rig out that long as I'm in the wrong place if nothing's happens in 48 hours.
Not used BAFs pop up mix yet but AA baits is good. Rolls nicely. Unsure who's is better for buyouncy but AAs will pop up 48 hours. And I've never left a rig out that long as I'm in the wrong place if nothing's happens in 48 hours.
In reply to Post #98
Mate don't waste your time making pop ups, far more hassle than it's worth imo. I make my own bottom baits, but just buy popups. There are loads of decent popups on the market, and for the expense of buying the stuff to make them it's just not worth it.
Mate don't waste your time making pop ups, far more hassle than it's worth imo. I make my own bottom baits, but just buy popups. There are loads of decent popups on the market, and for the expense of buying the stuff to make them it's just not worth it.
In reply to Post #99
This week on BAF website they put a DIY pop up or wafter pack on there website. you get 250g of pop up mix, 50ml flavour, 500ml liquid food.
This week on BAF website they put a DIY pop up or wafter pack on there website. you get 250g of pop up mix, 50ml flavour, 500ml liquid food.
In reply to Post #100
Alright i shall order some patshull park and liquid liver.
Alright i shall order some patshull park and liquid liver.
In reply to Post #102
My water is quite silty and natural as its surrounded by a forest. has alot of bloodworm and othe rnatural food for the carp in it aswell. should i use bloodwom liquid food instead of liver due to the fact the carp would be use to it?
My water is quite silty and natural as its surrounded by a forest. has alot of bloodworm and othe rnatural food for the carp in it aswell. should i use bloodwom liquid food instead of liver due to the fact the carp would be use to it?
In reply to Post #103
That's a bit like using a blade of grass to catch a cow in a field of grass. You'll probably catch it eventually given enough time. You need a more attractive stand out hookbait to cut the waiting time down.
That's a bit like using a blade of grass to catch a cow in a field of grass. You'll probably catch it eventually given enough time. You need a more attractive stand out hookbait to cut the waiting time down.
In reply to Post #103
Keep it as simple as possible.
Proven Patshall base mix, fresh eggs, and bit of winterised salmon oil and a low level flavour, like John Bakers Plum, a nice smell to keep the peace indoors.
No 'bloodworm food' that would be a waste of money IMHO.
Keep it as simple as possible.
Proven Patshall base mix, fresh eggs, and bit of winterised salmon oil and a low level flavour, like John Bakers Plum, a nice smell to keep the peace indoors.
No 'bloodworm food' that would be a waste of money IMHO.