In reply to Post #75
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many modern lines are pre stretched making them thinner and therefore lighter to enhance casting capability.
Stretching of mono is part of the manufacturing process for virtually all mono's, some are just stretched more than others.
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many modern lines are pre stretched making them thinner and therefore lighter to enhance casting capability.
Stretching of mono is part of the manufacturing process for virtually all mono's, some are just stretched more than others.
In reply to Post #70
Hit the nail on the head there Tony , you just don't know how thick a 15lb line is just by the 15lb rating on it , its shocking to think how many anglers out there are risking potential crack offs and worse by not noting the diameter of said line , I wouldn't dare whack a 3.5oz lead with prologic 15lb mimicry which is 0.29mm measured
I know there are other variables with softer rods when casting and style etc.. but I still wouldn't risk it
Hit the nail on the head there Tony , you just don't know how thick a 15lb line is just by the 15lb rating on it , its shocking to think how many anglers out there are risking potential crack offs and worse by not noting the diameter of said line , I wouldn't dare whack a 3.5oz lead with prologic 15lb mimicry which is 0.29mm measured
I know there are other variables with softer rods when casting and style etc.. but I still wouldn't risk it
In reply to Post #64
Well said Woody 👏
Well said Woody 👏
In reply to Post #78
i wont say whos line i tried, but it stated 18lb on the spool, and i cant remember said diameter...lets say, it was like 8lb BS
well it might aswell have been, it snapped at about that anyway...absolute pile of crap, i chucked 3 spools straight in the bin and never cast out with it
i wont say whos line i tried, but it stated 18lb on the spool, and i cant remember said diameter...lets say, it was like 8lb BS
well it might aswell have been, it snapped at about that anyway...absolute pile of crap, i chucked 3 spools straight in the bin and never cast out with it
In reply to Post #77
That mimicry is very obviously not much suited to big thumps with heavy leads. When you have it in your hands any idiot can see that! Makes a nice floater fishing line though
That mimicry is very obviously not much suited to big thumps with heavy leads. When you have it in your hands any idiot can see that! Makes a nice floater fishing line though
In reply to Post #75
I would of though a low stretch line would be better for snag fishing. PROVIDED you use a thicker diameter line, than you would for casting long distance.
I would of though a low stretch line would be better for snag fishing. PROVIDED you use a thicker diameter line, than you would for casting long distance.
To be fair, breaking strain is an easier way to label line for retail. But like test curve it doesn't tell the whole story. I imagine the majority do just buy a 10 for distance/specialist fishing, 12-15 for general purpose and 18+ for anything a bit tasty.. it's on the manufacturer to market what they think best represents their idea of how a specific line (casting/sinking etc) should be for a given bs I suppose
In reply to Post #82
99% of my angling is no further than 25 yrds out
99% of my angling is no further than 25 yrds out
In reply to Post #80
I get that Ian but if you were ordering the 15lb online without seeing it surely you'd look at the diameter of it to check ?
I get that Ian but if you were ordering the 15lb online without seeing it surely you'd look at the diameter of it to check ?
In reply to Post #74
Mates who used 15lb Big Game on Taverham had it constantly fail.
It simply could not stand the abuse.
I tried it for one session before I replaced it, just couldn't get on with it. I went straight back to my favourite 15lb Sylcast.
I also tried the 18lb Nash Bullet line of the time, again, horrible, and wiry. First fish rubbed against an unknown snag, (which I later retrieved, a fallen branch in the middle of the lake), and parted like cotton.
I used to use Daiwa Sensor in 15lb. What that line stood up to was amazing. I played fish through lilies, round weedbeds, a buoy anchor chain on one occasion, and it never gave way.
I was asked to test and review it by the Daiwa rep, to compare it to the Sylcast I was using, it was what I always replaced my reels with for years.
Sensor was a decent casting line, you could get a decent cast with a 3oz lead on 15lb line straight through.
The only time it ever failed was when I was using a leadcore leader at Suffolk Water Park, a fast take that stayed down low, and the line ran over a flint bar. I was cut off above the leader. (I know it was flint, I lived in the area when SWP was being dug, and it was where there was a flint seam that was left).
The Ultima rep asked me to test some of their 15lb lines. My appraisals were not appreciated, but the line did not stay on the reel. Line twist, no abrasion resistance.
Richard Gardner sent me some Pro Line in 15lb to use and abuse and asked for a review. A budget line that held its own against far more expensive lines. Abrasion resistance, castability, all good. In fact, on a couple of occasions when I snagged up with an overcast, pulling for a break, it was the snag that gave way, and I retrieved a bundle of branch, around 4 or 5 leads and leaders. I think I still have the picture of that lot somewhere.
I still use the Pro lines for fishing, dependant on whether I am using mono or Fluorocarbon obviously.
Other than the Nash 'experiment', I have never had the need to go to 18lb, other than a shockleader when I dropped to 8/10 or 12lb for casting. I figure that if there is the need to go to a higher breaking strain I shouldn't be fishing there!
Other than Shimano Catana, I have never found premium priced lines to be any better than the cheaper Daiwa or Gardner lines.
Mates who used 15lb Big Game on Taverham had it constantly fail.
It simply could not stand the abuse.
I tried it for one session before I replaced it, just couldn't get on with it. I went straight back to my favourite 15lb Sylcast.
I also tried the 18lb Nash Bullet line of the time, again, horrible, and wiry. First fish rubbed against an unknown snag, (which I later retrieved, a fallen branch in the middle of the lake), and parted like cotton.
I used to use Daiwa Sensor in 15lb. What that line stood up to was amazing. I played fish through lilies, round weedbeds, a buoy anchor chain on one occasion, and it never gave way.
I was asked to test and review it by the Daiwa rep, to compare it to the Sylcast I was using, it was what I always replaced my reels with for years.
Sensor was a decent casting line, you could get a decent cast with a 3oz lead on 15lb line straight through.
The only time it ever failed was when I was using a leadcore leader at Suffolk Water Park, a fast take that stayed down low, and the line ran over a flint bar. I was cut off above the leader. (I know it was flint, I lived in the area when SWP was being dug, and it was where there was a flint seam that was left).
The Ultima rep asked me to test some of their 15lb lines. My appraisals were not appreciated, but the line did not stay on the reel. Line twist, no abrasion resistance.
Richard Gardner sent me some Pro Line in 15lb to use and abuse and asked for a review. A budget line that held its own against far more expensive lines. Abrasion resistance, castability, all good. In fact, on a couple of occasions when I snagged up with an overcast, pulling for a break, it was the snag that gave way, and I retrieved a bundle of branch, around 4 or 5 leads and leaders. I think I still have the picture of that lot somewhere.
I still use the Pro lines for fishing, dependant on whether I am using mono or Fluorocarbon obviously.
Other than the Nash 'experiment', I have never had the need to go to 18lb, other than a shockleader when I dropped to 8/10 or 12lb for casting. I figure that if there is the need to go to a higher breaking strain I shouldn't be fishing there!
Other than Shimano Catana, I have never found premium priced lines to be any better than the cheaper Daiwa or Gardner lines.
In reply to Post #67
reply to Post #65
You're so blinkered its unreal , you are wrong , get over it , I cant be arsed reading your bull**** so I just skip past it so save your typing for someone who reads the bull
You have proved your opinion is totally worthless by being insulting and swearing. I can make my points without being rude or insulting.
As I said you aren't worth the effort.
reply to Post #65
You're so blinkered its unreal , you are wrong , get over it , I cant be arsed reading your bull**** so I just skip past it so save your typing for someone who reads the bull
You have proved your opinion is totally worthless by being insulting and swearing. I can make my points without being rude or insulting.
As I said you aren't worth the effort.
In reply to Post #86
Well obviously I am worth the effort as you keep on banging on at me and replying , face it , your old fashioned bs ratings in pounds are just not accurate , breaking strains on spools of line are whatever the manufacturers see fit to put on it , whereas the diameter is a true representation of a lines thickness .
Has the penny still not dropped when folk are banging on about 15lb GR60 and Daiwa Sensor being great lines ? I wonder if they are slightly thicker mono than their competitors in the same bs , what a coincidence
Well obviously I am worth the effort as you keep on banging on at me and replying , face it , your old fashioned bs ratings in pounds are just not accurate , breaking strains on spools of line are whatever the manufacturers see fit to put on it , whereas the diameter is a true representation of a lines thickness .
Has the penny still not dropped when folk are banging on about 15lb GR60 and Daiwa Sensor being great lines ? I wonder if they are slightly thicker mono than their competitors in the same bs , what a coincidence
In reply to Post #87
I always use 0.40 dia lines currently using the ogx which is very good! The reason I personally prefer 0.40 is because it sinks a lot easier as most the time I'm using a semi slack lines - most my fishing under 50 yards. I never look at bs
I always use 0.40 dia lines currently using the ogx which is very good! The reason I personally prefer 0.40 is because it sinks a lot easier as most the time I'm using a semi slack lines - most my fishing under 50 yards. I never look at bs
In reply to Post #84
I wouldn't really want to order line I've not seen mate. Tbh I travel a lot for work so can always lol into a shop to look if needs be. But if it ain't broke ,don't fix it, so I know what I'm buying anyway. Diameter doesn't necessarily mean a line is particularly strong or weak. But I get that would be something to consider if buying totally blind
I wouldn't really want to order line I've not seen mate. Tbh I travel a lot for work so can always lol into a shop to look if needs be. But if it ain't broke ,don't fix it, so I know what I'm buying anyway. Diameter doesn't necessarily mean a line is particularly strong or weak. But I get that would be something to consider if buying totally blind
In reply to Post #87
12 lb gr is bloody good too. Had cats to over 60lb on that..
12 lb gr is bloody good too. Had cats to over 60lb on that..