In reply to Post #85
Yes 5-10k is often a minimum order but quite a few do 500 mil bottles. I often wonder why the big flavour companies don't to 1 litre bottles as it would mean more business for them direct. But they choose to do bigger orders to make mixing worth their time.
Yes 5-10k is often a minimum order but quite a few do 500 mil bottles. I often wonder why the big flavour companies don't to 1 litre bottles as it would mean more business for them direct. But they choose to do bigger orders to make mixing worth their time.
In reply to Post #83
This.
Raspberry flavour will smell different depending on what country you're in as its used for different things, whilst some of them might be nearly identical in make up others wont, most will be made to suit a specific job, if its to flavour for example, a a hard boiled sweet, it will need to be compounded differently to one made for a soft chew sweet.
I tend to work exclusively with the base chemicals in most cases as there is absolutely no way of telling which components of say, a 20 ingredient flavour is actually instigating an investigative reaction from the fish.
butyric acid out performs most flavours by a large margin anyway but it doesnt sell unless you hide the stank with a fruit flavour lol.
This.
Raspberry flavour will smell different depending on what country you're in as its used for different things, whilst some of them might be nearly identical in make up others wont, most will be made to suit a specific job, if its to flavour for example, a a hard boiled sweet, it will need to be compounded differently to one made for a soft chew sweet.
I tend to work exclusively with the base chemicals in most cases as there is absolutely no way of telling which components of say, a 20 ingredient flavour is actually instigating an investigative reaction from the fish.
butyric acid out performs most flavours by a large margin anyway but it doesnt sell unless you hide the stank with a fruit flavour lol.
In reply to Post #87
A lot of the flavour compounds, flavours and essential oils gives little, vague or no response unless combined with some food item.
At least in the tank where the water usually is containing less solubles than lake water.
A lot of the flavour compounds, flavours and essential oils gives little, vague or no response unless combined with some food item.
At least in the tank where the water usually is containing less solubles than lake water.
In reply to Post #87
I've been wondering for a while whether a better approach is to almost ignore the flavour smell for want of a better description and to worry first about the base it's on. For instance, instead of say blending a Krill and Crab flavour that both happen to be on an oil base, because to us those two seem harmonious. Would we be better off blending say an Apple because it's on an EA base with say a Squid because it's on an oil base and then maybe a Vanilla that's on a PG base. Which to us might actually smell like a complete mess but might actually be a more efficient fish attractor due to the different ways that the bases will disperse in water. With the actual “smell” being secondary.
I've been wondering for a while whether a better approach is to almost ignore the flavour smell for want of a better description and to worry first about the base it's on. For instance, instead of say blending a Krill and Crab flavour that both happen to be on an oil base, because to us those two seem harmonious. Would we be better off blending say an Apple because it's on an EA base with say a Squid because it's on an oil base and then maybe a Vanilla that's on a PG base. Which to us might actually smell like a complete mess but might actually be a more efficient fish attractor due to the different ways that the bases will disperse in water. With the actual “smell” being secondary.
In reply to Post #84
i deal with Swizzels Matlow, they compound their own flavours in house for their various sweets, chews, boiled etc.
They wont sell their unique flavours to anyone, although, its quite handy when they need to batch test samples
i deal with Swizzels Matlow, they compound their own flavours in house for their various sweets, chews, boiled etc.
They wont sell their unique flavours to anyone, although, its quite handy when they need to batch test samples
In reply to Post #90
Surprised you've got any teeth left Josh...
Matlow drumsticks Raspberry & Milk. Going to have to go and buy some now..
Surprised you've got any teeth left Josh...
Matlow drumsticks Raspberry & Milk. Going to have to go and buy some now..
In reply to Post #91
I remember I asked Joss many years ago to see if he could blag a small amount of the drumstick flavour for me to make some hookbaits. Absolutely love drumsticks 😋😋
I remember I asked Joss many years ago to see if he could blag a small amount of the drumstick flavour for me to make some hookbaits. Absolutely love drumsticks 😋😋
In reply to Post #90
Any discount codes for online sweet purchases
My misses loves the sour refreshers
Any discount codes for online sweet purchases
My misses loves the sour refreshers
In reply to Post #92
oh sorry mate, head like a sieve.
im up there in a month or so, ill try and remember
oh sorry mate, head like a sieve.
im up there in a month or so, ill try and remember
In reply to Post #94
It was a fair few years ago mate so I'll let you off 😂😂
It was a fair few years ago mate so I'll let you off 😂😂
In reply to Post #95
In reply to Post #1
He has not got a leg to stand on legally IMO.
Nothing against John as had a few helpful chats over the phone over the years. Very helpful and knowledgeable.
He has not got a leg to stand on legally IMO.
Nothing against John as had a few helpful chats over the phone over the years. Very helpful and knowledgeable.
In reply to Post #96
Quite partially to them lemon refresher chews as well Josh if your down there any time soon..
Back onto John baker. Maybe hes bringing out his own range of John baker baits. And doesn't want his name associated with other products out there.
Maybe that's the reason for all these Cease and dissist
Quite partially to them lemon refresher chews as well Josh if your down there any time soon..
Back onto John baker. Maybe hes bringing out his own range of John baker baits. And doesn't want his name associated with other products out there.
Maybe that's the reason for all these Cease and dissist
In reply to Post #98
No legal standing and not known for HNV baits would be a weird avenue to redirect to in my opinion. He'd certainly need it contract rolled in any decent amount as well which is a company using his flavours 😂😂😂
No legal standing and not known for HNV baits would be a weird avenue to redirect to in my opinion. He'd certainly need it contract rolled in any decent amount as well which is a company using his flavours 😂😂😂
In reply to Post #99
But at least said company would of had his permission. I was thinking a range of pops rather than a food bait.
But at least said company would of had his permission. I was thinking a range of pops rather than a food bait.