I don't know how many people have heard of the Nuremberg code,which was drawn up ,after the Nuremberg trials..
The question people should be asking ,has the British Government violated that code..,using these so called emergency powers..
If ,in a court of human rights ,and I believe in the future this will end up as a human rights abuse issue..
No one should be coerced to have a medical procedure incurred upon their bodies,that is wrong on every single level..
No one should be punished in any way shape or form to reject a vaccination if they do not want it..
I have a friend,who is so terrified,he will not leave his house,two years come this March ,he has not set outside his door,he has a health condition,and thanks to the media,he won't even go for a night time walk ..I feel so sorry for him,..how many are there out there like that,like my friend..?
Right now,there are some very clever people chomping at the bit ,waiting to now take the biggest lie of all,all the way,its just a matter of time..
Will there be a modern version,in another name like the Nuremberg trials...I believe there might well be..who knows..
26 years high ranking NHS ,employee,based in London, retired last year,known to us..even this person says ,its now a human rights abuse issue...thats from an ex NHS high profile person,who doesn't do bull*****..
The question people should be asking ,has the British Government violated that code..,using these so called emergency powers..
If ,in a court of human rights ,and I believe in the future this will end up as a human rights abuse issue..
No one should be coerced to have a medical procedure incurred upon their bodies,that is wrong on every single level..
No one should be punished in any way shape or form to reject a vaccination if they do not want it..
I have a friend,who is so terrified,he will not leave his house,two years come this March ,he has not set outside his door,he has a health condition,and thanks to the media,he won't even go for a night time walk ..I feel so sorry for him,..how many are there out there like that,like my friend..?
Right now,there are some very clever people chomping at the bit ,waiting to now take the biggest lie of all,all the way,its just a matter of time..
Will there be a modern version,in another name like the Nuremberg trials...I believe there might well be..who knows..
26 years high ranking NHS ,employee,based in London, retired last year,known to us..even this person says ,its now a human rights abuse issue...thats from an ex NHS high profile person,who doesn't do bull*****..
My worry is this....... People are changing and their may be no return. Example......
My mother/sister and brother in-law just cancelled their trip to the theatre with my old girl and kids as they don't want to catch or spread anything over Christmas. They are and always have been very scared of this whole thing. They all had their boosters as soon as they were released so are fully jabbed. Now I write this as I think, ok, it's good to take precautions but surly you still need to live life? My mother in law looks in shops before she goes in to see how many people are in there and my brother in law never came to a garden bbq in the summer in case he needed to go in the house for the toilet etc 🤷♂️.
My brother in law has been working from home since day one and watches bbc world news all day while working.
I worry for the human race but not directly due to the virus.
I hope you get better soon Mal 👍
My mother/sister and brother in-law just cancelled their trip to the theatre with my old girl and kids as they don't want to catch or spread anything over Christmas. They are and always have been very scared of this whole thing. They all had their boosters as soon as they were released so are fully jabbed. Now I write this as I think, ok, it's good to take precautions but surly you still need to live life? My mother in law looks in shops before she goes in to see how many people are in there and my brother in law never came to a garden bbq in the summer in case he needed to go in the house for the toilet etc 🤷♂️.
My brother in law has been working from home since day one and watches bbc world news all day while working.
I worry for the human race but not directly due to the virus.
I hope you get better soon Mal 👍
In reply to Post #747
I still don't see how a parallel can be drawn from bus drivers as I pointed out, doctors actually on the job and having to get a Hep jab, I can get that if that's part on an existing contract. I'll hold me hands up and admit I know zilch about contracts and how the law works in this regard. I reality, I'm just asking questions.
Given the piece on the BBC, let's hope that this is going to be the end of all of this madness and get back to some sort of normal, whatever normal is for bods.
Hope you start to feel better soon Mal 👍
I still don't see how a parallel can be drawn from bus drivers as I pointed out, doctors actually on the job and having to get a Hep jab, I can get that if that's part on an existing contract. I'll hold me hands up and admit I know zilch about contracts and how the law works in this regard. I reality, I'm just asking questions.
Given the piece on the BBC, let's hope that this is going to be the end of all of this madness and get back to some sort of normal, whatever normal is for bods.
Hope you start to feel better soon Mal 👍
In reply to Post #750
Just that the rules are there to protect the people who access the service.
Thanks (to publiclife also) for the well wishes
Just that the rules are there to protect the people who access the service.
Thanks (to publiclife also) for the well wishes
Seriously hope you get better Mal..and you are quite correct a terrible precedent has now been set for all future generations.
I have four children,I pray for my unborn grandchildren,I feel so sorry seeing those kids walking past going to school,if it's not a green agenda shoved down their throats ,it's this virus..
It's not living,it's fearmongering...
Is it about Health communism,or the Health passport's who knows..
It's very sinister,evil...and quite terrifying..
One thing....wait n see...The World Health Organisation,at some point will be questioned,and possibly discredited.as will the highest of the high in the British Medical association..Whitty ,Van Tam ,the others...they are not untouchable..
No one is..
I have four children,I pray for my unborn grandchildren,I feel so sorry seeing those kids walking past going to school,if it's not a green agenda shoved down their throats ,it's this virus..
It's not living,it's fearmongering...
Is it about Health communism,or the Health passport's who knows..
It's very sinister,evil...and quite terrifying..
One thing....wait n see...The World Health Organisation,at some point will be questioned,and possibly discredited.as will the highest of the high in the British Medical association..Whitty ,Van Tam ,the others...they are not untouchable..
No one is..
In reply to Post #711
That Welsh minister seems to be an open minded chap.... Not.
That Welsh minister seems to be an open minded chap.... Not.
In reply to Post #752
Thanks mate.
I'm more optimistic. I see green issues as a way of preserving a future for our kids and grandkids.
As for fear mongering- was it ever any different? Every generation has had its own 'bogeymen'
The Russians / Iraqis / Taliban
AIDS
Nuclear war (I studied z for zachariah in school and remember vividly the Raymond Briggs book)
Before that? Martians
The devil / the wrath of the Lord
There's always been something that we're supposed to live in fear of. If we can find our way without becoming ars*holes then that's a start eh?
Thanks mate.
I'm more optimistic. I see green issues as a way of preserving a future for our kids and grandkids.
As for fear mongering- was it ever any different? Every generation has had its own 'bogeymen'
The Russians / Iraqis / Taliban
AIDS
Nuclear war (I studied z for zachariah in school and remember vividly the Raymond Briggs book)
Before that? Martians
The devil / the wrath of the Lord
There's always been something that we're supposed to live in fear of. If we can find our way without becoming ars*holes then that's a start eh?
In reply to Post #749
Get them to ditch the TeeVee license, you'll save their minds 👍
Get them to ditch the TeeVee license, you'll save their minds 👍
You can see the damage that has been done with the mention of “omicron” mass cancellations across various sectors and out right fear from people watching to much MSM and daily rags without looking at the data and statistics mostly because it's so bloody hard to find....... 
However I managed to find ONS data after trawling through loads of documents and Slides for unvaccinated / vaccinated hospital admissions where they stayed at least 1 night and it states the following......
weeks 42-45
3313 unvaccinated in hospital and a total of 378023 cases.
6786 vaccinated in hospital (1-2 jabs) and a total of 507,144 cases
Weeks 46-49
3512 unvaccinated in hospital and a total of 417,004 cases,
4612 vaccinated in hospital (1-2 jabs) and a total of 595756 cases.
I couldn't find ICU data although I'm still looking....but you can clearly see it's not 90% unvaccinated in hospitals like many rags tell the public.....
However I managed to find ONS data after trawling through loads of documents and Slides for unvaccinated / vaccinated hospital admissions where they stayed at least 1 night and it states the following......
weeks 42-45
3313 unvaccinated in hospital and a total of 378023 cases.
6786 vaccinated in hospital (1-2 jabs) and a total of 507,144 cases
Weeks 46-49
3512 unvaccinated in hospital and a total of 417,004 cases,
4612 vaccinated in hospital (1-2 jabs) and a total of 595756 cases.
I couldn't find ICU data although I'm still looking....but you can clearly see it's not 90% unvaccinated in hospitals like many rags tell the public.....
In reply to Post #756
They are now lowering the isolation period to 7 days,if you test negative on the 6th day then you can go out on the 7th
They are now lowering the isolation period to 7 days,if you test negative on the 6th day then you can go out on the 7th
In reply to Post #757
Don't think that applies to unvaccinated......
Don't think that applies to unvaccinated......
In reply to Post #758
Just don't do any tests and you're always clear
Just don't do any tests and you're always clear
In reply to Post #756
Didnt they report it being needing the most amount of care? That's what I saw anyhow
Didnt they report it being needing the most amount of care? That's what I saw anyhow
In reply to Post #760
Headlines have been hospitals are full and it's made up of unvaccinated patients.......one rag said 9 out of 10 people are unvaccinated .......
Headlines have been hospitals are full and it's made up of unvaccinated patients.......one rag said 9 out of 10 people are unvaccinated .......
In reply to Post #756
Do you know what the age groups are for this data as that would be really useful.
We know that for the at risk groups and the over 60s the vaccines have made a massive difference.
I suspects a lot of unvaccinated are in the younger age groups where you would not expect people to end up in hospital.
If you could compared group to group throughout the age groups that would give a better assessment.
Do you know what the age groups are for this data as that would be really useful.
We know that for the at risk groups and the over 60s the vaccines have made a massive difference.
I suspects a lot of unvaccinated are in the younger age groups where you would not expect people to end up in hospital.
If you could compared group to group throughout the age groups that would give a better assessment.