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How good does a bait really need to be? (98 posts / 11,462 views)
TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,652
Post #61 2 Mar 2025 20:54
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In reply to Post #60
The only person making stuff up inside their head is you. It's quite scary really. All from what some syndicate boss told you about a swim being roped off.

It's made you an expert on how bang average Mainline bait is (another way of saying crap), and also how sponsored anglers get special bait that you cannot have.

I've given you real life experience about how and why you are wrong. You're not interested. You are convinced that you are correct. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Does not make any of it factual. Try living in the real world. The opinions that you carry will be factual. Not stuff that you are imagining.
StarkCarp1980
Posts: 106
Post #62 2 Mar 2025 21:11
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In reply to Post #61
I know how much you love a quote so here's the evidence of you making stuff up to fit your narrative.
Firstly I didn't say mainline is crap or bang average, what I actually wrote is “yet this very forum has proved the bait is actually pretty bang average”
As you will see. It's not me making a claim about mainline ISO fish but other members of the forum.

Secondly I didn't say sponsored anglers get special bait, what I actually wrote is
“Now I'm not saying celebrity anglers do or don't get better bait than the public”

Another example of you not comprehending what has been written and I quiote

“As for DP catching 7 x 40's. There are over 2000 carp in that place. You speak of it like it is something special what he has done. Stop sucking down the media. It will likely stop you coming up with all these conspiracy theories inside your own head about what's happening.”

What I actually said
“look at darrel pecks recent video for mainline, 7 40's in one session is probably the best advertising mainline could ever have. They don't give a crap if you or I blank on their bait. As long as social media is full of their sponsored anglers bagging up they'll sell tons of bait“

Your reply had absolutely nothing to do with the point i am making.



So like I said either you don't bother reading what is being written to you or you wilfully misinterpret it so you can go off on your long winded, I'm better than you, multi post rambling replies.
mark1009
Posts: 4,745
Post #63 2 Mar 2025 21:14
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Sometimes I wish I didn't bother posting or even reading this forum. I posted what I thought was a reasonable line of enquiry. Why do all bait threads have to be ruined by knobheads. If you want to act like a brat stay in the childrens playground. I'm glad I'm not T carper, nobody deserves such crap aimed at them.
StarkCarp1980
Posts: 106
Post #64 2 Mar 2025 21:19
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In reply to Post #63
Right, let's all bow down to TC carper even when the guy wilfully misinterprets what is written so he can post his “I'm better than you BS”
TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,652
Post #65 2 Mar 2025 21:22
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Quote.... They don't give a crap if you or I blank on their bait. As long as social media is full of their sponsored anglers bagging up they'll sell tons of bait.
Again talking of mainline, when iso fish came out spooner did a film on one of the embryo lakes and of course he bagged up and yet this very forum has proved the bait is actually pretty bang average. So have mainline released the “best” bait they can with ISO fish or are they relying on their sponsored anglers to promote an average bait to their gullible fan base.

They don't give a crap? This forum proved that their bait is bang average? Their customers are all gullible fans?

Go and have a lay down you silly mug. You came here making stupid childish statements. No one else.
StarkCarp1980
Posts: 106
Post #66 2 Mar 2025 21:29
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In reply to Post #65
Still wilfully misinterpreting what I've written, and your second quote literally proves my point that I didn't say mainline are crap, talk about shooting yourself in the foot. The only mug here is you and you've even proven the point for me.
StarkCarp1980
Posts: 106
Post #67 2 Mar 2025 21:32
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In reply to Post #65
And just for you, proof It wasn't me saying ISO fish is average https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=442140&ReadAll=1
TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,652
Post #68 2 Mar 2025 21:33
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Of course you are completely correct. You and the bait experts on CarpForum read what was written on the side of a bag of bait and you now know the minds of the biggest bait firm the UK has ever known. You even know their intentions.

Why am I arguing with you?

You're kinda special.

That below is a direct copy and paste quote of your post. You have a lovely evening.
StarkCarp1980
Posts: 106
Post #69 2 Mar 2025 21:34
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In reply to Post #68
Speechless, just speechless.
TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,652
Post #70 2 Mar 2025 22:53
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I just corrected a post from earlier and added a link, it was the garlic hemp thread, not the maize as I wrongly put earlier. Link here. MrMoo is Dean Cowell. He'd just been banned not long before with his friends for terrorising me on here for ages. Swearing to bring my business down. Here he is under a fake profile asking me lots of questions with his pals about the garlic just weeks later.

I can't talk about bait on here. I cannot help the genuine ones among you. Because there are so many un genuine ones. It's so hard to tell the difference with new members for me these days. I've mentioned it the past few days. Look what happens today.

https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=428451&ReadAll=1
DarthMullet
Posts: 321
Post #71 3 Mar 2025 00:24
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Funny how Uncle Jim has been with pretty much every bait firm in existence but still catches them...

In terms of certain folk mentioned in this thread, many years ago I received an unsolicited PM threat of “we will meet” via FB, based upon the fact that luncheon meat is not a good bait...

I know Mark personally and whilst he may ruffle a few feathers here and there, two things are always absolutely clear... One is that he doesn't talk rubbish and two is that results back up what he says...

Results are ALWAYS unquestionable. Fish on the bank. Any bait that fails to achieve that, consistently, isn't worth it's salt... BUT... Now go back and read the first sentence... 🤣

A good angler will catch more with a poor bait than an awful angler with a good bait but, combine the two, it's deadly... 👍
mark1009
Posts: 4,745
Post #72 3 Mar 2025 00:52
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In reply to Post #64
The guy puts his results on the line for all to see. Put up or shut up. I'm sick of all this trash talk. Go boil your head.
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #73 3 Mar 2025 06:12
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In reply to Post #69
Funny you didn't acknowledge me asking you if you really believe DL has a swim cordoned off for him at all times, or just for filming, where pressure is on to catch fish for camera?

You proved nothing about “sponsored” anglers getting preferential treatment, you just highlighted how marketing and content works in angling. The fact you think you proved something means you are incredibly naive, to the point daily life must be hard.

Knowing people that fished alongside Dave over at the RK complex I can tell you he blanks with the rest of them, doesn't have a swim cordoned off 24/7, and moves swim regularly during a session to get on fish, like any good angler does.
PaulBishop PaulBishop
Posts: 371
Post #74 3 Mar 2025 06:21
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In reply to Post #73
It's still fake. Imagine I'm advertising washing up liquid but rather than wash genuinely dirty plates I just buy new ones because the pressure is on to sell product.
The way folks suck up to someone who goes pleasure fishing for a few quid is amazing,

BTW, nice marketing TC, you've got a captive audience.
StarkCarp1980
Posts: 106
Post #75 3 Mar 2025 07:41
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In reply to Post #73
Where did I say he had a swim cordoned off 24/7?
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