In reply to Post #59
As we all know, some Nurses are using food banks. This suggests to me that they don't have enough money! Real terms pay has dropped for years now, people must be feeling properly squeezed (obviously not many on here). With inflation sky rocketing, asking for a pay rise that is in line with that will merely keep them on an even keel; not like they'll be in Barbados next summer.
I think that had the Govt. not wasted so much money during Covid (Test and Trace specifically and all of these ridiculous fast lane contracts for mates that are starting to bubble over) then it'd be harder to support the strikers (those in the public sector at least). Those striking in the private sector are seeing their companies posting millions in profits, dividends and senior management absolutely creaming it in; there's funds available to help the staff, but as Mal alludes to it's just being distributed to those at the top of the tree, as usual. F*ck that.
I'd hope that in the long run, these strikes will benefit more and more people; get people paid better, away from food banks, not working several jobs, seeing their kids more. A company that has a happy workforce will be invariably more successful, that's got to be a win-win for everyone.
The strikes inconvenience me; but not as much as it would if I couldn't afford to heat my home or buy my kids some Christmas presents, so I'll keep supporting them.
As we all know, some Nurses are using food banks. This suggests to me that they don't have enough money! Real terms pay has dropped for years now, people must be feeling properly squeezed (obviously not many on here). With inflation sky rocketing, asking for a pay rise that is in line with that will merely keep them on an even keel; not like they'll be in Barbados next summer.
I think that had the Govt. not wasted so much money during Covid (Test and Trace specifically and all of these ridiculous fast lane contracts for mates that are starting to bubble over) then it'd be harder to support the strikers (those in the public sector at least). Those striking in the private sector are seeing their companies posting millions in profits, dividends and senior management absolutely creaming it in; there's funds available to help the staff, but as Mal alludes to it's just being distributed to those at the top of the tree, as usual. F*ck that.
I'd hope that in the long run, these strikes will benefit more and more people; get people paid better, away from food banks, not working several jobs, seeing their kids more. A company that has a happy workforce will be invariably more successful, that's got to be a win-win for everyone.
The strikes inconvenience me; but not as much as it would if I couldn't afford to heat my home or buy my kids some Christmas presents, so I'll keep supporting them.
In reply to Post #60
Labour is not a lefty party. It is unquestionably right of centre and you couldn't get a fag paper between some of the policies that both the Tories and Kier Starmer appear to support.
The public are not pissed off with the left, what a daft assertion given we've had a far-right Government in power ruining the country for 10 years plus. The reason Starmer is so wishy washy is because he's trying to win back some of the gammon Brexit voters.
Labour is not a lefty party. It is unquestionably right of centre and you couldn't get a fag paper between some of the policies that both the Tories and Kier Starmer appear to support.
The public are not pissed off with the left, what a daft assertion given we've had a far-right Government in power ruining the country for 10 years plus. The reason Starmer is so wishy washy is because he's trying to win back some of the gammon Brexit voters.
Just been talking to a couple of our local posties who not only tell me they're on strike tomorrow but also tell me that there be agency staff going in that are on £30 per hour.
It's not about they can't afford to give a pay rise in line with inflation but about can't afford such a paltry drop in their luxurious lifestyles that they've nicely built up on the back of those that have helped them accrue and then maintain it.
Where we you grandad when there were people losing their jobs, homes, and their lives. Did you defend your future generation or did you lie down and take a good shafting just like I'm getting shafted now?.
This government make me sick the corrupt tvvats.
It's not about they can't afford to give a pay rise in line with inflation but about can't afford such a paltry drop in their luxurious lifestyles that they've nicely built up on the back of those that have helped them accrue and then maintain it.
Where we you grandad when there were people losing their jobs, homes, and their lives. Did you defend your future generation or did you lie down and take a good shafting just like I'm getting shafted now?.
This government make me sick the corrupt tvvats.
In reply to Post #61
As we all know, some Nurses are using food banks.
I've heard of that but I find it difficult to believe.
A quick cut and paste
The RCN has estimated that an average NHS nurse's pay is around £34,000.
Here is the current banding scale:
Band 5 – £27,055 to £32,934
Band 6 – £33,706 to £40,588
Band 7 – £41,659 to £47,672
I'm not saying they shouldn't get a pay rise, just find it difficult they need food banks, unless there's exceptional circumstances which let's face it could affect anyone whatever they do as a job.
In reply to Post #63
Are you saying Royal Mail can afford pay rises more than offered?
No doubt they'll up their offer a little but I can see the business shrinking and job losses.
Then grandad will be remembering the good old days.
As we all know, some Nurses are using food banks.
I've heard of that but I find it difficult to believe.
A quick cut and paste
The RCN has estimated that an average NHS nurse's pay is around £34,000.
Here is the current banding scale:
Band 5 – £27,055 to £32,934
Band 6 – £33,706 to £40,588
Band 7 – £41,659 to £47,672
I'm not saying they shouldn't get a pay rise, just find it difficult they need food banks, unless there's exceptional circumstances which let's face it could affect anyone whatever they do as a job.
In reply to Post #63
Are you saying Royal Mail can afford pay rises more than offered?
No doubt they'll up their offer a little but I can see the business shrinking and job losses.
Then grandad will be remembering the good old days.
In reply to Post #64
I could quite believe that anyone on £27k, trying to support a family, run a car, pay bills, mortgage etc is struggling to make ends meet.
Conversely, I'd also find it hard to believe that a nurse earning £47k is using a food bank.
That fits in with what I said: "...some Nurses are using food banks."
The Nurses plight has been amplified because they're unionised and because the NHS is important to everyone. There's obviously lots and lots of people that are not nurses, that are using also using food banks and it would be great if they could get pay rises and not be as dependant on handouts too.
I could quite believe that anyone on £27k, trying to support a family, run a car, pay bills, mortgage etc is struggling to make ends meet.
Conversely, I'd also find it hard to believe that a nurse earning £47k is using a food bank.
That fits in with what I said: "...some Nurses are using food banks."
The Nurses plight has been amplified because they're unionised and because the NHS is important to everyone. There's obviously lots and lots of people that are not nurses, that are using also using food banks and it would be great if they could get pay rises and not be as dependant on handouts too.
In reply to Post #65
Lots of people earn less than £27k and don't go to foodbanks.
Some successful businessmen may lose everything and end up at a foodbanks
Depends on your definition of some I suppose.
Lots of people earn less than £27k and don't go to foodbanks.
Some successful businessmen may lose everything and end up at a foodbanks
Depends on your definition of some I suppose.
In reply to Post #66
Wheres the link to the documented proof that all these nurses are REGULARLY using food banks?
Wheres the link to the documented proof that all these nurses are REGULARLY using food banks?
In reply to Post #67
Tinhat never said they were
Post before only said some and didn't say regularly
I think some are only 1 or 2 wage packets away.
Tinhat never said they were
Post before only said some and didn't say regularly
I think some are only 1 or 2 wage packets away.
In reply to Post #64
Food banks - I see a lot folk from the private sector and first hand have experience of it, but who is helping them ?.
Couple of nurses get highlighted and here we go..l
A lot of people in low paid private sector jobs (with no unions) if they all stopped working in retail / supermarkets then we really would be screwed because these are the folk society seem to forget who do so much for little reward.
Nick Harper made the comment that the taxpayer paid £300K per RMT worker during Covid - and yet the RMT form the picket lines .....
Train capacity is down a long way before Covid . There demands and actions will lead to layoffs at some point.
Food banks - I see a lot folk from the private sector and first hand have experience of it, but who is helping them ?.
Couple of nurses get highlighted and here we go..l
A lot of people in low paid private sector jobs (with no unions) if they all stopped working in retail / supermarkets then we really would be screwed because these are the folk society seem to forget who do so much for little reward.
Nick Harper made the comment that the taxpayer paid £300K per RMT worker during Covid - and yet the RMT form the picket lines .....
Train capacity is down a long way before Covid . There demands and actions will lead to layoffs at some point.
In reply to Post #69
This is what I was alluding to, it's not just nurses but people across the board, all walks of life - the nurses situation is amplified because they're critical workers and strikes are significant news at present.
You make a good point that there's so many people that provide so much, for little reward, and without them we'd be absolutely screwed. But it's easier to demonise, point fingers and call them scroungers; to think a couple of years ago these people were "the best of us", key workers keeping the country going. Amazing how fickle some people can be.
This is what I was alluding to, it's not just nurses but people across the board, all walks of life - the nurses situation is amplified because they're critical workers and strikes are significant news at present.
You make a good point that there's so many people that provide so much, for little reward, and without them we'd be absolutely screwed. But it's easier to demonise, point fingers and call them scroungers; to think a couple of years ago these people were "the best of us", key workers keeping the country going. Amazing how fickle some people can be.
In reply to Post #70
And this is the problem with papers, television and politicians they all seek headlines but forget ....
And this is the problem with papers, television and politicians they all seek headlines but forget ....
In reply to Post #1
So back to post #1
What's the future for Royal Mail?
Not very good is my guess.
Other companies will continue to pick off the profitable bits leaving RM to deliver letters, the cost of a stamp will go up until it becomes profitable for the other companies to deliver them.
So back to post #1
What's the future for Royal Mail?
Not very good is my guess.
Other companies will continue to pick off the profitable bits leaving RM to deliver letters, the cost of a stamp will go up until it becomes profitable for the other companies to deliver them.
In reply to Post #70
What's odd is that the NHS is £350 million per week better off since brexit. Why don't they just use that money?
Oh....
Hang on....
What's odd is that the NHS is £350 million per week better off since brexit. Why don't they just use that money?
Oh....
Hang on....
In reply to Post #72
And there'll be a rise in threads on carp forums about awful dpd/evri/etc. service.. ...
And there'll be a rise in threads on carp forums about awful dpd/evri/etc. service.. ...
In reply to Post #74
Yes although you'll never hear horror stories about Royal Mail delivering rods because they don't deliver them.
Yes although you'll never hear horror stories about Royal Mail delivering rods because they don't deliver them.