In reply to Post #675
Slightly disagree.
Yeap, we stick hooks in them for our pleasure, but that is, or should be only a small part of carp, or any angling (with the exception of fishing for food)
The lengths alot of real anglers, and fishery managers, owners, lease holders etc go to, to ensure that the fish are healthy is way beyond the actual capture. add to that the environments we look after that all wildlife can, and do benefit from.
My point being, that if capturing carp, and releasing them, if it effected them that much, they simply wouldn't grow and flourish.
where it all falls down is when people are prepared to catch a fish at all costs, mainly to fish for likes on social media with all their sad hashtags. Death rigs for said self gratification is beyond my mental understanding of angling.
For me, its all about reducing said risk of harm.
But i do agree, if we break it down to the bear bones, then sticking hooks in fish for our pleasure isn't the best advert.
It's a little bit like what i do for a living. I teach animal welfare and issue licences all over the country for the purpose of slaughter. Sounds absolutely crazy doesnt it!
We are, afterall going to kill it for food, but the welfare of said animal is paramount for the animals well being and meat quality
Slightly disagree.
Yeap, we stick hooks in them for our pleasure, but that is, or should be only a small part of carp, or any angling (with the exception of fishing for food)
The lengths alot of real anglers, and fishery managers, owners, lease holders etc go to, to ensure that the fish are healthy is way beyond the actual capture. add to that the environments we look after that all wildlife can, and do benefit from.
My point being, that if capturing carp, and releasing them, if it effected them that much, they simply wouldn't grow and flourish.
where it all falls down is when people are prepared to catch a fish at all costs, mainly to fish for likes on social media with all their sad hashtags. Death rigs for said self gratification is beyond my mental understanding of angling.
For me, its all about reducing said risk of harm.
But i do agree, if we break it down to the bear bones, then sticking hooks in fish for our pleasure isn't the best advert.
It's a little bit like what i do for a living. I teach animal welfare and issue licences all over the country for the purpose of slaughter. Sounds absolutely crazy doesnt it!
We are, afterall going to kill it for food, but the welfare of said animal is paramount for the animals well being and meat quality
In reply to Post #684
The core of the debate is that carping is for pleasure but the rational anglers do as much in their power as you say to minimise risk, hurt and general harm. My comment was to address those that suggest "if you don't like this twig, then don't fish" - that argument makes little sense if any.
Focusing on this horror device, that's where the problem is for me. The fishing (as a pursuit) is just that, but do it safely - but when, as you say, people get seduced into catch at all costs - that's poor form.
And back to the Twig, even if it did work in its current form, I still wouldn't want part of it because it epitomises that catch at all costs mentality AND its shaped like a fecking anchor :(
Animals will die because of this horror show.
The core of the debate is that carping is for pleasure but the rational anglers do as much in their power as you say to minimise risk, hurt and general harm. My comment was to address those that suggest "if you don't like this twig, then don't fish" - that argument makes little sense if any.
Focusing on this horror device, that's where the problem is for me. The fishing (as a pursuit) is just that, but do it safely - but when, as you say, people get seduced into catch at all costs - that's poor form.
And back to the Twig, even if it did work in its current form, I still wouldn't want part of it because it epitomises that catch at all costs mentality AND its shaped like a fecking anchor :(
Animals will die because of this horror show.
the capesthorne estate manager has just banned the twig from all estate lakes and syndicates and rightly so
In reply to Post #685
Totally agree mate
Totally agree mate
In reply to Post #686
A good move by Geoff.
And also the pa committee will be discussing it at their next meeting.
A good move by Geoff.
And also the pa committee will be discussing it at their next meeting.
In reply to Post #686
Thats brilliant news I hope PA follow and ban it on all club waters
Thats brilliant news I hope PA follow and ban it on all club waters
In reply to Post #686
I wonder how Ali feels about it being banned on a lake he cut his teeth on,also got a hook named after it I think 🤔
I wonder how Ali feels about it being banned on a lake he cut his teeth on,also got a hook named after it I think 🤔
In reply to Post #690
Whilst many have got/had their concerns re this subject, you seem rather more animated than most?
Whilst many have got/had their concerns re this subject, you seem rather more animated than most?
Weed test. Results as expected. Death trap!
https://youtu.be/yARHRbOiDcU
https://youtu.be/yARHRbOiDcU
In reply to Post #691
I think a few others have posted just as much about it and their concerns
I think a few others have posted just as much about it and their concerns
In reply to Post #693
indeed, just your posts seem rather stronger?
only asking, not fussed
indeed, just your posts seem rather stronger?
only asking, not fussed
In reply to Post #694
no place for this in modern fishing
no place for this in modern fishing
In reply to Post #695
don't tie a hooklink on just use it as a spot rake seems to work remarkably well.....
don't tie a hooklink on just use it as a spot rake seems to work remarkably well.....
In reply to Post #696
Tie it to a tree and hang your airdry bag from it?
Use it to lift your scales up?
Tie it to a tree and hang your airdry bag from it?
Use it to lift your scales up?
In reply to Post #696
A fiver is nothing for a weed rake, winning!
A fiver is nothing for a weed rake, winning!