In reply to Post #43
Possibly a silly question, but we're you just using the Mainline flavour in your baits or were you using it in their ready rolled HL baits?
Possibly a silly question, but we're you just using the Mainline flavour in your baits or were you using it in their ready rolled HL baits?
In reply to Post #45
Unless you're going to get into chemistry, it means its a straight chain molecule, rather than a branched one. Clearer? 😂
Unless you're going to get into chemistry, it means its a straight chain molecule, rather than a branched one. Clearer? 😂
In reply to Post #47
Correct!
Correct!
In reply to Post #47
I do find it strange that it's mentioned though, it's never sold in the chemical world with the N infront at least I don't see it from my sources who are pretty comprehensive with their labelling. I understand butyric is a straight chain acid but have only seen it sold with the N in fishing circles ?
I do find it strange that it's mentioned though, it's never sold in the chemical world with the N infront at least I don't see it from my sources who are pretty comprehensive with their labelling. I understand butyric is a straight chain acid but have only seen it sold with the N in fishing circles ?
In reply to Post #49
Because it sounds more special. Although for once its actually correct....
Strange no one calls caproic “n-caproic acid” tho
Because it sounds more special. Although for once its actually correct....
Strange no one calls caproic “n-caproic acid” tho
In reply to Post #46
Used both versions to see if it was actually down to the flavour itself, or other variables coming into play, using two different basemixes. The originals straight out the bag(Mainlines) accounted for cirka 60/40 split for bottom baits, compared to my basemix. For popups, the split was almost even, but both outfished the other competitors.
Used both versions to see if it was actually down to the flavour itself, or other variables coming into play, using two different basemixes. The originals straight out the bag(Mainlines) accounted for cirka 60/40 split for bottom baits, compared to my basemix. For popups, the split was almost even, but both outfished the other competitors.
Butyric acid has many synonyms. N butyric being one of them. Nothing to do with Nutrabaits. There is an isomer. I wonder if any flavourists have tested to see if there is any difference in attraction between the two.
In reply to Post #46
What's HL referring to guys?
What's HL referring to guys?
In reply to Post #53
As he mentions mainline I'd assume “high leakage” indicating their ready made shelf life range
As he mentions mainline I'd assume “high leakage” indicating their ready made shelf life range
In reply to Post #49
https://www.fishersci.be/shop/products/n-butyric-acid-99-thermo-scientific/p-4228973
Fisher scientific sells it as n butyricq acid
https://www.fishersci.be/shop/products/n-butyric-acid-99-thermo-scientific/p-4228973
Fisher scientific sells it as n butyricq acid
In reply to Post #55
Those prices make me feel northern
Good spot though, first time I've ever seen that!
Those prices make me feel northern
Good spot though, first time I've ever seen that!
In reply to Post #56
18 euro for 100ml
Prices of chemicals are driven by their purity.
I assume the butyric acid sold by nutrabaits doesn't has a purity +99%.
Literature suggests that butyric acid, citric acid and malic acid are functional toward triggering interest of carp.
They all have in common the low chain length, C4, C5 and C6.
Anyone had a spin with acetic acid (Vinegar), formic acid or propionic acid?
18 euro for 100ml
Prices of chemicals are driven by their purity.
I assume the butyric acid sold by nutrabaits doesn't has a purity +99%.
Literature suggests that butyric acid, citric acid and malic acid are functional toward triggering interest of carp.
They all have in common the low chain length, C4, C5 and C6.
Anyone had a spin with acetic acid (Vinegar), formic acid or propionic acid?
In reply to Post #57
Even in bulk it seems pricey ( last 10kg lot I got last year was about 130 quid delivered ).
Regarding purity of it has the word pure, the CAS number and stinks I think it's probably good lol, not that I've used the nutrabaits one.
Regarding other acids I've never had a truly in-depth play with propionic acid, a whiffy number also, but a bit less vomitty. Think the furthest I went with it was diluting into solution and trying on some floating trout pellets a year or two ago, had some further health issues since then and can't seem to find any notes!
My favourite acids are generally butyric and citric, very strong feeding reaction from fish to both.
I'm noticed citric to have a very symbiotic sort of effect with DMPT in hookbaits
Even in bulk it seems pricey ( last 10kg lot I got last year was about 130 quid delivered ).
Regarding purity of it has the word pure, the CAS number and stinks I think it's probably good lol, not that I've used the nutrabaits one.
Regarding other acids I've never had a truly in-depth play with propionic acid, a whiffy number also, but a bit less vomitty. Think the furthest I went with it was diluting into solution and trying on some floating trout pellets a year or two ago, had some further health issues since then and can't seem to find any notes!
My favourite acids are generally butyric and citric, very strong feeding reaction from fish to both.
I'm noticed citric to have a very symbiotic sort of effect with DMPT in hookbaits
In reply to Post #58
10kg!
What did your neighbours say when they moved out?
10kg!
What did your neighbours say when they moved out?
In reply to Post #59
Well it was two elderly couples, both widowed now. Can confirm neither said much being dead and all....
Also full disclosure it wasn't the butyric that killed them 👀
Well it was two elderly couples, both widowed now. Can confirm neither said much being dead and all....
Also full disclosure it wasn't the butyric that killed them 👀