In reply to Post #45
0.26 10lb line mate using a 45lb briaded leader , 145 yards will be a breeze but on the right rods , budget wise get some Fox X3 13ft 3.5lbtc or the Shimano TX2 13fters, you will easily hit distance.
As a recommendation , try the King Carp carp line off Amazon , very smooth and a proper distance line, plus cheap, by way, i use 4.25oz zip leads.
0.26 10lb line mate using a 45lb briaded leader , 145 yards will be a breeze but on the right rods , budget wise get some Fox X3 13ft 3.5lbtc or the Shimano TX2 13fters, you will easily hit distance.
As a recommendation , try the King Carp carp line off Amazon , very smooth and a proper distance line, plus cheap, by way, i use 4.25oz zip leads.
In reply to Post #46
Fox Exocet in 13lb with a braided leader changed my distance fishing. Well worth a go before changing rods/ booking lessons etc
Fox Exocet in 13lb with a braided leader changed my distance fishing. Well worth a go before changing rods/ booking lessons etc
In reply to Post #47
I couldn't imagine using a carp line of less than 0.35. Level line casting for me or braid if its allowed. No point casting to the horizon only to lose the fish trailing 100 yards of line if you catch.
For this reason I don't use zigs, cant stand them..
I couldn't imagine using a carp line of less than 0.35. Level line casting for me or braid if its allowed. No point casting to the horizon only to lose the fish trailing 100 yards of line if you catch.
For this reason I don't use zigs, cant stand them..
In reply to Post #48
12ft aviator spod rod arrived today.. just buttering the mrs up to allow me a set of 12ft 3.5tc aviators, I'll sell my fox rods i promise
12ft aviator spod rod arrived today.. just buttering the mrs up to allow me a set of 12ft 3.5tc aviators, I'll sell my fox rods i promise
In reply to Post #48
Funny thing was we didn't lose that many when we used 6/8/10lb line years ago, even on weedy/lakes with lots of bars.
I use 17lb line, but I think using higher BS lines makes people think it's ok to fish area's they shouldn't really be fishing......
Funny thing was we didn't lose that many when we used 6/8/10lb line years ago, even on weedy/lakes with lots of bars.
I use 17lb line, but I think using higher BS lines makes people think it's ok to fish area's they shouldn't really be fishing......
In reply to Post #50
I think the average size of fish has increased and test curve of rod. I used to fish 6lb line as a kid with a 1.75tc rod, fish over 20lb rarely lost any, but I was only fishing 30yrds lol
I think the average size of fish has increased and test curve of rod. I used to fish 6lb line as a kid with a 1.75tc rod, fish over 20lb rarely lost any, but I was only fishing 30yrds lol
In reply to Post #51
There's people catching 150lb+ tarpon on 12lb tippet and a rod of about 1.5lb
No chance of breaking well tied (labelled as) 10lb mono with a carp rod unless casting distance or directly pulling/walking backwards with no bend in the blank
There's people catching 150lb+ tarpon on 12lb tippet and a rod of about 1.5lb
No chance of breaking well tied (labelled as) 10lb mono with a carp rod unless casting distance or directly pulling/walking backwards with no bend in the blank
In reply to Post #52
One word...
Abrassion
One word...
Abrassion
In reply to Post #50
I can remember using 8lb line for carp fishing back in the 1990's. I can't remember many break-offs either, except when using a helicopter running on the leader until we discovered Cox and Rawle beads.
I was hitting over 120metres with 2.25lb rods, Amnesia Shockleader, Shimano 4000 Baitrunner reels and 2.5oz leads.
I now cast the same distance with 15lb straight through, although lead size has increased a bit!
I agree your point about higher breaking strain lines and people fishing where they shouldn't.
I have seen people fishing in areas, casting right into holes in weed beds or right into snags where the fish is going to be damaged, injured, simply by playing it around there on heavy tackle.
For long distance fishing now, as long as the water is weed and snag free, I would be looking at going to 0.30/0.32mm mainline (10/12lb), with either a Grey Greased Weasel 40lb or 30lb Black Amnesia leader on the 3lb rod with 3.25 or 3.5oz leads. I know 3.25 is not a usual lead size, but 1/4-1/2over test curve is often the best casting weight for a rod.
I can remember using 8lb line for carp fishing back in the 1990's. I can't remember many break-offs either, except when using a helicopter running on the leader until we discovered Cox and Rawle beads.
I was hitting over 120metres with 2.25lb rods, Amnesia Shockleader, Shimano 4000 Baitrunner reels and 2.5oz leads.
I now cast the same distance with 15lb straight through, although lead size has increased a bit!
I agree your point about higher breaking strain lines and people fishing where they shouldn't.
I have seen people fishing in areas, casting right into holes in weed beds or right into snags where the fish is going to be damaged, injured, simply by playing it around there on heavy tackle.
For long distance fishing now, as long as the water is weed and snag free, I would be looking at going to 0.30/0.32mm mainline (10/12lb), with either a Grey Greased Weasel 40lb or 30lb Black Amnesia leader on the 3lb rod with 3.25 or 3.5oz leads. I know 3.25 is not a usual lead size, but 1/4-1/2over test curve is often the best casting weight for a rod.
In reply to Post #53
*see final sentence of post #50
*see final sentence of post #50
In reply to Post #53
If abrasion is a big issue you should either be using a leader anyway or sacrificing distance for safety (by using heavier BS mainline).
A good compromise is a braided leader (for abrasion and to absorb shock on the cast) and a decent distance mainline
If abrasion is a big issue you should either be using a leader anyway or sacrificing distance for safety (by using heavier BS mainline).
A good compromise is a braided leader (for abrasion and to absorb shock on the cast) and a decent distance mainline
In reply to Post #1
I'm not sure when you say '50lb leader' if you mean a braid one or not but I have found with a mono mainline that single change alone makes a massive difference, as there being no stretch the rod compresses far easier
I'm not sure when you say '50lb leader' if you mean a braid one or not but I have found with a mono mainline that single change alone makes a massive difference, as there being no stretch the rod compresses far easier
In reply to Post #54
I can remember using 8lb line for carp fishing back in the 1990's. I can't remember many break-offs either
Same as, never had much of a problem over bars either with the trailing line. I wouldn't hesitate to go down to .28 or 8lb with a decent leader.
Haven't seen much mention about rigs possibly being the issue either. Using helicopters I used to tie the hooklink to the leader or tubing with pva so everything was streamlined, even used to tie stringers on in the same way at times.
There was a article by Frank Warwick iirc back in the day using sea fishing bait brake off shields for ultra long distance...I know that's not the topic but like Tesco say, every little helps
I can remember using 8lb line for carp fishing back in the 1990's. I can't remember many break-offs either
Same as, never had much of a problem over bars either with the trailing line. I wouldn't hesitate to go down to .28 or 8lb with a decent leader.
Haven't seen much mention about rigs possibly being the issue either. Using helicopters I used to tie the hooklink to the leader or tubing with pva so everything was streamlined, even used to tie stringers on in the same way at times.
There was a article by Frank Warwick iirc back in the day using sea fishing bait brake off shields for ultra long distance...I know that's not the topic but like Tesco say, every little helps
In reply to Post #57
Should of stated 50lb Arma Kord braided shock leader.
Should of stated 50lb Arma Kord braided shock leader.
In reply to Post #58
Currently using Heli set up to try and increase distance. Not thought about PVA taping the hook link to the pin down leader.
Currently using Heli set up to try and increase distance. Not thought about PVA taping the hook link to the pin down leader.