Agree it is disrespectful to the fish and the spirit and soul of angling. Only had a problem once, some numpty kept sending one low and slow and hovering at eye level in front of me. Couple of pouches of gravel solved it, didn't hit it, didn't care, just go away. They have no place on fisheries.
Yea its cheating climbing up trees to see where the fish are and then you got the cheats using binoculars 
proper anglers !!!!
cast out a decent rig go to sleep in a nice warm bag with the door done up and get woken up by the alarm telling them a fish has hooked itself dont need no cheating boats or drones ? just proper carping innit
proper anglers !!!!
cast out a decent rig go to sleep in a nice warm bag with the door done up and get woken up by the alarm telling them a fish has hooked itself dont need no cheating boats or drones ? just proper carping innit
In reply to Post #47
To be honest if I'm getting away fishing it's usually to get away from all the technology and distractions of everyday life.
To be honest if I'm getting away fishing it's usually to get away from all the technology and distractions of everyday life.
The way I see it all technologies are just angling aids to a greater or lesser degree, be it alarms, bait boats, Deepers etc the one thing they will never replace is watercraft IMO
BUT
If you have a Drone then who needs watercraft, just fly around till you find the fish
BUT
If you have a Drone then who needs watercraft, just fly around till you find the fish
In reply to Post #49
yeah , but a bite alarm doesnt really help you catch any more fish, it just alows us to have a kip after the 4th cheese toasty in the monkey toaster,
yeah , but a bite alarm doesnt really help you catch any more fish, it just alows us to have a kip after the 4th cheese toasty in the monkey toaster,
In reply to Post #50
Hilarious how folk are justifying the drones and sonar aids. There's just no going back from this brothers and there is no doubt you are shortening your angling pastime.
Hilarious how folk are justifying the drones and sonar aids. There's just no going back from this brothers and there is no doubt you are shortening your angling pastime.
In reply to Post #51
I can remember going up to the Royalty with my dad and uncles in the 70s,word then was how swimfeeders are cheating and everyone was moaning about them..
Now I'm older,...but all this modern tech is somehow soulless,and not in the spirit of the chase,why,one might as well stay at home and play carp fishing on a big computer screen,maybe things need to regress a bit..
Each to their own and all that...but my modern tech,in angling extended to three bite alarms,at that point I'm out of tech,its no substitute for a level of skill,or not...
I can remember going up to the Royalty with my dad and uncles in the 70s,word then was how swimfeeders are cheating and everyone was moaning about them..
Now I'm older,...but all this modern tech is somehow soulless,and not in the spirit of the chase,why,one might as well stay at home and play carp fishing on a big computer screen,maybe things need to regress a bit..
Each to their own and all that...but my modern tech,in angling extended to three bite alarms,at that point I'm out of tech,its no substitute for a level of skill,or not...
In reply to Post #52
Adam I very much doubt that many waters will allow the use of drones by 'normal' anglers, so I don't see them being an issue for most anglers.
Adam I very much doubt that many waters will allow the use of drones by 'normal' anglers, so I don't see them being an issue for most anglers.
In reply to Post #37
Just reading through this thread with interest...personally I haven't got a huge issue with Drones I think some of the footage and images produced are fantastic....I haven't got one personally but that's because I'm ham-fisted and would either put it up a tree or crash it to the bottom of the lake!
Post #36 did stick out though. Guy on our lake did exactly this....pulled into the car park, Sent his Drone up, saw that the fish were all down one end of the lake where every peg was taken....he then landed the drone, jumped back in his motor and went to another water....
....it could be argued that was good angling, saved an almost definite blank!
Just reading through this thread with interest...personally I haven't got a huge issue with Drones I think some of the footage and images produced are fantastic....I haven't got one personally but that's because I'm ham-fisted and would either put it up a tree or crash it to the bottom of the lake!
Post #36 did stick out though. Guy on our lake did exactly this....pulled into the car park, Sent his Drone up, saw that the fish were all down one end of the lake where every peg was taken....he then landed the drone, jumped back in his motor and went to another water....
....it could be argued that was good angling, saved an almost definite blank!
Thing that often interests me, is that the older generation are actually often the ones who embrace boats and sonar etc. They have done it the hard way and see no reason to struggle like they used too.
And lots of the ones who oppose that new tech, like me, are tge ones who never got the chance to fish the time before it was all avaliable, and want fishing to be like it was before they were alive.
And lots of the ones who oppose that new tech, like me, are tge ones who never got the chance to fish the time before it was all avaliable, and want fishing to be like it was before they were alive.
As a fully paid up member of the “older generation” my view is that drones are a step way too far. I dont like bait boats either. My reasoning is twofold really, essentially our quarry is a fish, with limited intellectual power, and tools like these shift the balance of the hunt far too far in the hunters favour. Secondly, anglers with the drones & boats also have a significant advantage over those who don't too. This shifts the emphasis from skills to how much £ you can throw at it.
I'm fully aware that at my age the emphasis of my fishing is now more about the journey than the results. For example, the time spent learning a water, understanding fish behaviour, bait experimentation, noting the seasonal changes, and then a plan that produces a catch. This is what I enjoy about fishing now but I understand that for others everything is just about the catch. I suspect for those people carp fishing may not stay with them for a lifetime.
I'm fully aware that at my age the emphasis of my fishing is now more about the journey than the results. For example, the time spent learning a water, understanding fish behaviour, bait experimentation, noting the seasonal changes, and then a plan that produces a catch. This is what I enjoy about fishing now but I understand that for others everything is just about the catch. I suspect for those people carp fishing may not stay with them for a lifetime.
In reply to Post #56
This shifts the emphasis from skills to how much £ you can throw at it.
Sums it up for me
This shifts the emphasis from skills to how much £ you can throw at it.
Sums it up for me
In reply to Post #58
What people buy and use for their fishing is up to them, as long as good manners and etiquette are adhered to. But nailing my colours to the mast there are limits. A couple of passes at 100/150ft I can live with. Start buzzing me and hovering around my swim and you will get 1 double digit warning. If that doesn't work then pouch full of pebbles from my boilie pult will follow.
What people buy and use for their fishing is up to them, as long as good manners and etiquette are adhered to. But nailing my colours to the mast there are limits. A couple of passes at 100/150ft I can live with. Start buzzing me and hovering around my swim and you will get 1 double digit warning. If that doesn't work then pouch full of pebbles from my boilie pult will follow.
In reply to Post #59
Fished a day ticket lake other day, Ouch, I was soaking 3 boillies on the deck and a bait boat was suddenly over my boillies, so I said excuse me your over my flaming baits , he said your on the bottom mate, so I says er yer but your in me swim guv, and so it went on till I lost it, and he did retreat, oh how I flaming laught. Some words were changed
Fished a day ticket lake other day, Ouch, I was soaking 3 boillies on the deck and a bait boat was suddenly over my boillies, so I said excuse me your over my flaming baits , he said your on the bottom mate, so I says er yer but your in me swim guv, and so it went on till I lost it, and he did retreat, oh how I flaming laught. Some words were changed
In reply to Post #1
I've found they both just eliminate the ability to use watercraft. Why chuck a deeper out when the swim next door is like a jacuzzi? Like most of society, a tablet screen becomes the eyes and ears. We trust the information within pixels than we do our own mince pies. I could think nothing worse of going to all the effort of baiting a spot, getting it rocking and some absolute womble takes a toy boat with a deeper attached plops his rig in your margin.
It gives the ability to achieve the unachievable. You cannot physically see 60 carp 2ft under the surface 200 yards away in Grenville. You also cannot drop 2kg of bait and a rig on a dinner plate on that spot in one cast.
You physically cannot achieve it. It's impossible.
We have entered an era where we are allowing technology to go a step further than we can achieve by hand. By that I mean proper technology, not fixed spool reels and bite alarms which are beneficial for a carps welfare, not detrimental like a bait boat.
You reap what you sow. If you want to sit there in peace as the mini migrant boats with 50 krill imposters come sailing by into your water, good luck to you. The same goes with the "bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" of a 4 rotor drone as it monitors the clear spot that the boat is going to.
It's fishing, and if anything, it swings the odds massively (if unfairly) in our favour. Imagine the hunting community being told they can track down their quarry with a tablet and GPS tags, Archers having laser guided bows, cyclists being given lithium ion motors based on Tesla technology so they can beat their PB over a set distance....
It's all false. It takes out our human ability to achieve something using our senses, and was only created to make things easier for a softer breed of human who wants things on a plate. All the reward, minimal effort.
Yes, use a deeper if you want to map a lake out prior to fishing, but chucking it on top of fizzers in 5ft of water is embarrassing to watch. ****ing thing should be in the north sea looking for cod, not an underarm chuck looking for a gammy common.
I've found they both just eliminate the ability to use watercraft. Why chuck a deeper out when the swim next door is like a jacuzzi? Like most of society, a tablet screen becomes the eyes and ears. We trust the information within pixels than we do our own mince pies. I could think nothing worse of going to all the effort of baiting a spot, getting it rocking and some absolute womble takes a toy boat with a deeper attached plops his rig in your margin.
It gives the ability to achieve the unachievable. You cannot physically see 60 carp 2ft under the surface 200 yards away in Grenville. You also cannot drop 2kg of bait and a rig on a dinner plate on that spot in one cast.
You physically cannot achieve it. It's impossible.
We have entered an era where we are allowing technology to go a step further than we can achieve by hand. By that I mean proper technology, not fixed spool reels and bite alarms which are beneficial for a carps welfare, not detrimental like a bait boat.
You reap what you sow. If you want to sit there in peace as the mini migrant boats with 50 krill imposters come sailing by into your water, good luck to you. The same goes with the "bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" of a 4 rotor drone as it monitors the clear spot that the boat is going to.
It's fishing, and if anything, it swings the odds massively (if unfairly) in our favour. Imagine the hunting community being told they can track down their quarry with a tablet and GPS tags, Archers having laser guided bows, cyclists being given lithium ion motors based on Tesla technology so they can beat their PB over a set distance....
It's all false. It takes out our human ability to achieve something using our senses, and was only created to make things easier for a softer breed of human who wants things on a plate. All the reward, minimal effort.
Yes, use a deeper if you want to map a lake out prior to fishing, but chucking it on top of fizzers in 5ft of water is embarrassing to watch. ****ing thing should be in the north sea looking for cod, not an underarm chuck looking for a gammy common.