In reply to Post #43
Depends on the snags mentioned. Surely no one in their right mind would drop a bait behind a snag where he cant see or have a way of retrieving his line? Also if he has done so he clearly isn't fishing his swims water.
That being said I have used my boat to drop a rig underneath a overhanging tree where you couldn't cast your bait and it resulted in a awesome 34 lbs mirror this year. Perfect example of scenarios where I use my boat to fish to snags where casting isn't possible
Depends on the snags mentioned. Surely no one in their right mind would drop a bait behind a snag where he cant see or have a way of retrieving his line? Also if he has done so he clearly isn't fishing his swims water.
That being said I have used my boat to drop a rig underneath a overhanging tree where you couldn't cast your bait and it resulted in a awesome 34 lbs mirror this year. Perfect example of scenarios where I use my boat to fish to snags where casting isn't possible
In reply to Post #46
No disrespect but you're the one suggesting placing rigs through snags is expectable in post 41
The cost of a Baitboat is pretty much irrelevant – in the wrong hands they are all deadly if misused
No disrespect but you're the one suggesting placing rigs through snags is expectable in post 41
The cost of a Baitboat is pretty much irrelevant – in the wrong hands they are all deadly if misused
In reply to Post #47
As mentioned in my previous post I have used a boat yes to get to where you cant cast under overhanging trees etc to great effect.
Out of curiosity why is it deemed acceptable for someone to wade out and place their rigs under the same snags but a person using a bait boat its seen as cheating?
And you are correct the price of equipment is irrelevant. I was merely stating it to prove a point that even though it cost me a bit and state of the art I still prefer using my "water craft" as you called it. Well actually you said I am a bonehead and should learn some water craft before you changed your post but hey who's counting.
PS and you are right a boat in the wrong hands is a problem. But this can be said for a rod and reel also. Or an unhooking mat/cradle, rigs etc bascially anything to do with fishing
As mentioned in my previous post I have used a boat yes to get to where you cant cast under overhanging trees etc to great effect.
Out of curiosity why is it deemed acceptable for someone to wade out and place their rigs under the same snags but a person using a bait boat its seen as cheating?
And you are correct the price of equipment is irrelevant. I was merely stating it to prove a point that even though it cost me a bit and state of the art I still prefer using my "water craft" as you called it. Well actually you said I am a bonehead and should learn some water craft before you changed your post but hey who's counting.
PS and you are right a boat in the wrong hands is a problem. But this can be said for a rod and reel also. Or an unhooking mat/cradle, rigs etc bascially anything to do with fishing
Thankfully bait boats are banned on all my waters. If you can't safely cast to an area, you can't fish it. Works well. It gives the fish a safe area to retreat to if they feel stressed, pressured or maybe after a capture. I don't see that every area of the lake should be fair game. Healthy fish need a healthy environment. That includes safe areas, which get increasingly smaller if guys can fish at huge ranges or into snags.
I have to say I disagree with you on Deepers Keith. Like most waters these days, mine get very very weedy. On limited time, I could spend three hours in a swim leading about, dragging in huge balls of weed and creating a lot of disturbance, potentially ruining the swim for me and probably not making me too popular with other anglers in the area. With a deeper I can do maybe five quick casts, rule out 90% of the swim as unfisable, swap the deeper for a lead and just concentrate on the 10% ive quickly identified as potentially fishable. I also think there's nothing wrong with spending the day in winter when no ones on the lake, mapping out each swim. Then in summer it reduces your marker rod useage again making less disturbance for everyone.
I have to say I disagree with you on Deepers Keith. Like most waters these days, mine get very very weedy. On limited time, I could spend three hours in a swim leading about, dragging in huge balls of weed and creating a lot of disturbance, potentially ruining the swim for me and probably not making me too popular with other anglers in the area. With a deeper I can do maybe five quick casts, rule out 90% of the swim as unfisable, swap the deeper for a lead and just concentrate on the 10% ive quickly identified as potentially fishable. I also think there's nothing wrong with spending the day in winter when no ones on the lake, mapping out each swim. Then in summer it reduces your marker rod useage again making less disturbance for everyone.
In reply to Post #49
Some of you are missing the point of the original post. The question was not weather bait boats in general were cheating, but about the validity of an elderly fisherman who is not as capable as he used to be being able to use one in order to be able to continue with the sport that he loves.
Or do you suggest that I just give up. As for fish craft and reading the water I am not impaired at all and have probably forgotten more than some of you will ever know.
Some of you are missing the point of the original post. The question was not weather bait boats in general were cheating, but about the validity of an elderly fisherman who is not as capable as he used to be being able to use one in order to be able to continue with the sport that he loves.
Or do you suggest that I just give up. As for fish craft and reading the water I am not impaired at all and have probably forgotten more than some of you will ever know.
In reply to Post #44
If they want to find fish they will have to learn some water craft, go spend some time watching learning instead of being so bone idle.
A Level playing field for all, the "Fish at all cost brigade" can go else where.
Bit of a traditionalist myself if I'm honest and finding the spots is all part of the challenge for me
I agree though, a level playing field for all
If they want to find fish they will have to learn some water craft, go spend some time watching learning instead of being so bone idle.
A Level playing field for all, the "Fish at all cost brigade" can go else where.
Bit of a traditionalist myself if I'm honest and finding the spots is all part of the challenge for me
I agree though, a level playing field for all
In reply to Post #50
Your right, he could use a submarine for me
End of the day it's lake rules that dictate what can and cannot be done on the fishery where you are 
Your right, he could use a submarine for me
End of the day it's lake rules that dictate what can and cannot be done on the fishery where you are
In reply to Post #1
I am only 65 but with bad and worsening arthritis in both of my shoulders and spine (along with other conditions too). When my shoulders are playing up I can neither cast far nor accurately. I purchased a baitboat earlier this year to assist me overcoming this. I only fish spots I could cast to anyway. I have had various comments from those being supportive all the way down to "perhaps you'd better give up then. You've had your go anyway - give someone else a chance". I was shocked at that comment I can admit.
Mostly people just laugh at some old git using a BB to drop a bait 30 yards out.
Of course that is only half the story. Hook something and it can really hurt to get it in. Oww
I am only 65 but with bad and worsening arthritis in both of my shoulders and spine (along with other conditions too). When my shoulders are playing up I can neither cast far nor accurately. I purchased a baitboat earlier this year to assist me overcoming this. I only fish spots I could cast to anyway. I have had various comments from those being supportive all the way down to "perhaps you'd better give up then. You've had your go anyway - give someone else a chance". I was shocked at that comment I can admit.
Mostly people just laugh at some old git using a BB to drop a bait 30 yards out.
Of course that is only half the story. Hook something and it can really hurt to get it in. Oww
In reply to Post #53
"perhaps you'd better give up then. You've had your go anyway - give someone else a chance"
Really!? FFS!
"perhaps you'd better give up then. You've had your go anyway - give someone else a chance"
Really!? FFS!
In reply to Post #44
Mr Fairbrass banning them could be more to do with Korda and Deeper owners no longer working together allegedly
Mr Fairbrass banning them could be more to do with Korda and Deeper owners no longer working together allegedly
In reply to Post #1
Quite frankly, who cares.
Other people's opinions / sticking their nose in / making unnecessary comments / being derogatory is endemic in carp fishing.
F*** them. Just enjoy your fishing Sir and do whatever you like, within the rules and etiquette, of course.
Quite frankly, who cares.
Other people's opinions / sticking their nose in / making unnecessary comments / being derogatory is endemic in carp fishing.
F*** them. Just enjoy your fishing Sir and do whatever you like, within the rules and etiquette, of course.
I'd rather someone turn up next to me and use a deeper in there peg for a couple casts than thrash the water to a foam using a marker float for a hour ruining the chances of everyone near by
I pray at 80 that i could still be fishing and if it includes using a baitboat to do so then sod all the snipers
Hi All
Probably the most disgusting thread I've ever seen on the forum by far!!
Apparently it's ok to go at an 80 year old using a bait boat who's been abused on the bank
"perhaps you'd better give up then. You've had your go anyway - give someone else a chance"
Regulars posting constructive comments and there's the usual ****ers giving it the big one!!
If I get banned for this so be it,
But ****ing with an 80 year old carper, seriously??
Tossers!!
Best
Jon
Probably the most disgusting thread I've ever seen on the forum by far!!
Apparently it's ok to go at an 80 year old using a bait boat who's been abused on the bank
"perhaps you'd better give up then. You've had your go anyway - give someone else a chance"
Regulars posting constructive comments and there's the usual ****ers giving it the big one!!
If I get banned for this so be it,
But ****ing with an 80 year old carper, seriously??
Tossers!!
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #59
Not so much the thread Jon but the ********s who do such a thing
Not so much the thread Jon but the ********s who do such a thing