In reply to Post #42
Zack,
Marukyu made the announcement in January it is pulling out of the UK, and have ceased UK operations.

See if you can get the liquid additive to ferment, or become active, may make a difference.

A little bit of soft brown sugar, low level of active yeast, slowly heat then leave for a few days, might find Bob is your uncle and Fanny is your aunt😉

Anglers Mail Marukyu link


Ken,
Look at the colour of the silkworm powder, compare the smell and colour to Trigga if you can remember it...

In reply to Post #46
Marukyu made the announcement in January it is pulling out of the UK, and have ceased UK operations.

Not to worry, never did much good on there stuff anyway.

In reply to Post #47
I love all this, I would appear to have unearthed a silkworm nest

Had to be Liver Brekkies for my bait, didn't roll well so just used to rolling pin 1/2 inch slabs & boil, cubed once cooled, excellent bait that takes me back.

4oz Semolina
4oz Red Factor
2oz Liver Brekkies
2 Tbls Vecon or Marmite
1 Tbls Parmesan Cheese
10 - 20 ml Fish Oil
3 - 5 ml Flavour

In reply to Post #49
That looks a very reasonable bait.

In reply to Post #48
I love all this, I would appear to have unearthed a silkworm nest

You would have to be either very old or reincarnated😉😆

The Chinese domesticated the silkworm moth about 5000 years ago. Obviously the silk is the main product, gained by boiling the pupae so the cocoon breaks into threads, but eating the pupae is now a thing...

****ing hell.

In reply to Post #45
Awesome thanks Ken. Sounds like a worthy ingredient for sure. I see many potential uses for it. Ingredients like PTX are sold on having insects in it. It seems a lot more effective just using pure insect meal now it's easily available. Savoury seed mixes, milk protein mixes all sound good matches. Perhaps at 10% in a fishmeal bait wouldn't be a bad idea either.

In reply to Post #45
Ken, is there a way of getting hold of this without ordering from Holland?

In reply to Post #54
Found this from a study on the net -

Effects of non-defatted silkworm-pupae in diets on the growth of common carp, Cyprinus carpio
Author links open overlay panelM.C.NandeeshaG.K.SrikanthP.KeshavanathT.J.VargheseN.BasavarajaS.K.Das

Common carp fed over a period of 140 days on diets containing different levels of non-defatted pupae showed better growth with the diet containing 30% papa, without fish meal. Ten per cent and 20% of pupa in combination with 20% and 10% fish meal gave lower growth, although statistically there was no difference between different treatments. Digestibility of protein and fat from pupa diets was better than that from the fish meal control diet. Significantly higher deposition of protein, fat and ash was recorded with diets having 20% and 30% pupa. Experimental diets had no influence on organoleptic quality in terms of colour, odour, texture and flavour. The results show that non-defatted pupa could replace fish meal in the diet of common carp, without affecting growth and quality.

In reply to Post #56
Thanks, interesting reading.

In reply to Post #55
Drop Luc a message asking for details of his UK agent.

Just for the record, when I knew Pete at Savay from 1988 - 1992 he never showed the slightest interest in bait, but then none of us did back then. I am never said nor inferred that he knows nothing about the subject. If anything his reticence on the subject simply reinforces my belief that he knows a lot more than he ever let on. Proper old school is that.

I also also on the same rota as Bernie Heerey (aka. Heerey The Theory) a bait man's bait man. He was pretty tight lipped too as I recall.

In reply to Post #59
**** me bernie wouldn't tell you when his birthday was