In reply to Post #30
Could you smell fish too
Could you smell fish too
In reply to Post #23
With regards to prices going up as the fish get bigger; I can to a point understand this. If you start out with relatively small fish you basically have to run a loss each year, because most people wouldn't pay much to fish for the small fish, no matter how nice the surroundings are. As the fish grow prices can rise, hopefully to the point where you're not making a loss and maybe even start to cover all the previous losses.
What I've done is keep the price lower for those who have been members through the years when the stock was slowing growing and put the price up for new members. This year there will be members paying three different amounts for the same ticket. Just showing a bit of appreciation for those who have continued to join and watch the Pool develop with me.
One other thing to think of.
I'm lucky that I bought my place outright, but most people who run waters are paying a lease, and trust me, farmers and landowners in general aren't slow to see an opportunity to put the lease up.
With regards to prices going up as the fish get bigger; I can to a point understand this. If you start out with relatively small fish you basically have to run a loss each year, because most people wouldn't pay much to fish for the small fish, no matter how nice the surroundings are. As the fish grow prices can rise, hopefully to the point where you're not making a loss and maybe even start to cover all the previous losses.
What I've done is keep the price lower for those who have been members through the years when the stock was slowing growing and put the price up for new members. This year there will be members paying three different amounts for the same ticket. Just showing a bit of appreciation for those who have continued to join and watch the Pool develop with me.
One other thing to think of.
I'm lucky that I bought my place outright, but most people who run waters are paying a lease, and trust me, farmers and landowners in general aren't slow to see an opportunity to put the lease up.
Just seems like the uk is in a race to the bottom where everything is price led
And then people moan about how crap something is when it breaks..
No one is allowed to make a living to pay taxes or employ people.
Without profit there is no jobs and then where we all be..
And then people moan about how crap something is when it breaks..
No one is allowed to make a living to pay taxes or employ people.
Without profit there is no jobs and then where we all be..
In reply to Post #27
A true syndicate is where each member buys a share in the lake, and owns that share until they decide to sell it.
I know of only one true syndicate lake, and you need to be working for His Majesty to join it.
The dictionary definition states "a group of individuals or organizations combined to promote a common interest"
Well, to me thats a club lake. "Syndicates" to me are only syndicates by name. You still have zero input unless you join a club committee. Syndicates are just names to give somewhere a bit of aura about it. Anyone who opens a "syndicate" lake with fish under 25lb would be laughed at, unless every single carp came directly from Heather the Leathers fanny, and every single one was a linear, and the ****ter was at least 5 metres square with a hot tap in situ.
I joined a "syndi" last year. Saw one bailiff in all that time, and the fella didn't even fish there himself. Had zero soul compared to some of the public park lakes i've fished over the years.
A true syndicate is where each member buys a share in the lake, and owns that share until they decide to sell it.
I know of only one true syndicate lake, and you need to be working for His Majesty to join it.
The dictionary definition states "a group of individuals or organizations combined to promote a common interest"
Well, to me thats a club lake. "Syndicates" to me are only syndicates by name. You still have zero input unless you join a club committee. Syndicates are just names to give somewhere a bit of aura about it. Anyone who opens a "syndicate" lake with fish under 25lb would be laughed at, unless every single carp came directly from Heather the Leathers fanny, and every single one was a linear, and the ****ter was at least 5 metres square with a hot tap in situ.
I joined a "syndi" last year. Saw one bailiff in all that time, and the fella didn't even fish there himself. Had zero soul compared to some of the public park lakes i've fished over the years.
SYNDICATE, everyone's equal, not for profit, quality fish, work parties required.
VERY DIFFICULT TO GET IN
PRIVATE MEMBERS CLUB, owned by individual or Individuals, run as break even or profit. Work parties shouldn't be entertained as this is a business, why should you supply free labour to subsidise someone's business/lifestyle (if u do ur a mug) high quality fish at the right money.
ONLY GET IN IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE
DAY TICKET, scrapes filled with mud pigs to rip the ass out of the newcomers and those that can't afford or their suspect social media posts rules them out of both the above.
Breakfast and dinner available at a price and you can have that ****ty van or 10 year old BMW parked behind your Coking Farm YouTube bull**** Parker Baits ***** 👍
HAVE ANY OLD **** MONEY MONEY MONEY
Little Chef Fisheries
VERY DIFFICULT TO GET IN
PRIVATE MEMBERS CLUB, owned by individual or Individuals, run as break even or profit. Work parties shouldn't be entertained as this is a business, why should you supply free labour to subsidise someone's business/lifestyle (if u do ur a mug) high quality fish at the right money.
ONLY GET IN IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE
DAY TICKET, scrapes filled with mud pigs to rip the ass out of the newcomers and those that can't afford or their suspect social media posts rules them out of both the above.
Breakfast and dinner available at a price and you can have that ****ty van or 10 year old BMW parked behind your Coking Farm YouTube bull**** Parker Baits ***** 👍
HAVE ANY OLD **** MONEY MONEY MONEY
Little Chef Fisheries
In reply to Post #35
Fortunately I'm in on SYNDICATE level, I thank the Lord in my prayers every week 🙏
Fortunately I'm in on SYNDICATE level, I thank the Lord in my prayers every week 🙏
In reply to Post #35
I think what you are saying is purely business. Like most things in the pastime, once somebody realises they can make some money out of it everyone jumps on the bandwagon.
It's simple, be prepared to pay if you want to fish these places, they ain't in it for the love of fishing or to help you out they are in it to take your money otherwise they would be deflated costs or ultimately they would be doing it for virtually free if it was for their love of angling.
If you want the opposite it's angling clubs, with committees who spend where the member's want it, or don't at times. There are still some brilliant clubs about but carp just lived in some of their waters. Clubs traditionally are matched focused but a few are changing
Long live angling clubs, value for money and people with a real passion running them
I think what you are saying is purely business. Like most things in the pastime, once somebody realises they can make some money out of it everyone jumps on the bandwagon.
It's simple, be prepared to pay if you want to fish these places, they ain't in it for the love of fishing or to help you out they are in it to take your money otherwise they would be deflated costs or ultimately they would be doing it for virtually free if it was for their love of angling.
If you want the opposite it's angling clubs, with committees who spend where the member's want it, or don't at times. There are still some brilliant clubs about but carp just lived in some of their waters. Clubs traditionally are matched focused but a few are changing
Long live angling clubs, value for money and people with a real passion running them
Some of the cost is because of demand being so much higher these days than before.
But, I wonder what the prices would be if we were prepared to fish the way we did 30 years ago? No built swims (or very few), no space for giant bivvies, swims that were under water for 3 months in winter, no road around the lake or barrow friendly paths. No aerators, otter fences (maybe not realistic today), loos, and no stockings or regular nettings.
My suspicion is that it would be a lot cheaper but not popular ...
But, I wonder what the prices would be if we were prepared to fish the way we did 30 years ago? No built swims (or very few), no space for giant bivvies, swims that were under water for 3 months in winter, no road around the lake or barrow friendly paths. No aerators, otter fences (maybe not realistic today), loos, and no stockings or regular nettings.
My suspicion is that it would be a lot cheaper but not popular ...
In reply to Post #38
if the sense of adventure is the same as it was 30 years ago then I think you'd be surprised at how many people would go for something like that.
we have had people suggesting that the Canadian carp society take control of a private lake & develop it as a European style fishery with ready made swims, a stocking program, facilities etc - a couple of them have said that they like the idea of paying to fish lakes too.
when I mentioned UK fishing prices they were astonished & soon agreed that they are happy fishing for wild ones, anywhere in the province, wherever they want, whenever they want for the grand sum of $48 for 3 years... we are very lucky indeed.
if the sense of adventure is the same as it was 30 years ago then I think you'd be surprised at how many people would go for something like that.
we have had people suggesting that the Canadian carp society take control of a private lake & develop it as a European style fishery with ready made swims, a stocking program, facilities etc - a couple of them have said that they like the idea of paying to fish lakes too.
when I mentioned UK fishing prices they were astonished & soon agreed that they are happy fishing for wild ones, anywhere in the province, wherever they want, whenever they want for the grand sum of $48 for 3 years... we are very lucky indeed.
In reply to Post #39
As you know, I like Canadian carp fishing as it is! Hoping to make it over again this summer
As you know, I like Canadian carp fishing as it is! Hoping to make it over again this summer
In reply to Post #38
I'm thinking back to my club lake 30 years ago. Annual fee was cheap. it had very few facilities but it was very popular even back then.
I'm thinking back to my club lake 30 years ago. Annual fee was cheap. it had very few facilities but it was very popular even back then.
In reply to Post #41
My £450 "syndicate" in 2024 was a £60 club ticket in 2004, and included three other lakes.
My £450 "syndicate" in 2024 was a £60 club ticket in 2004, and included three other lakes.
In reply to Post #42
I can guess where that is. (Redmire Commons?)
Classic case of a long established club losing out when the landowner was approached by someone else offering more $$$. Long term club members got kicked off half way through the spring & left with nowhere to fish. I vowed to never fish one of his waters ever again.
I can guess where that is. (Redmire Commons?)
Classic case of a long established club losing out when the landowner was approached by someone else offering more $$$. Long term club members got kicked off half way through the spring & left with nowhere to fish. I vowed to never fish one of his waters ever again.
In reply to Post #38
They'd probably charge more for the “old skool” experience.....
They'd probably charge more for the “old skool” experience.....
Landowners/farmers putting the lease prices up..who should pay ?