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The Method and Big Carp (38 posts / 8,898 views)
runneil runneil
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Post #31 15 Nov 2024 17:30
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Couldn't agree more with the fact that modern pellets just don't work as well as they did in the early 90s. Then friends and I took waters appart on the method and scalded pellet. It seemed to work everywhere, especially on gravel pits where we would cast directly into the weed !

I remember my first trip out with it to a local lake I caught two 20s and several smaller fish , I'd only ever caught one 20 prior to that ! Back then it truly was a game changer !
PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #32 16 Nov 2024 03:41
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How have pellets changed since those earlier days, is it less oil, higher ash content ? Can that be alleviated through additives ?
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #33 16 Nov 2024 11:22
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I'd imagine all the fish meals used have changed for one reason or another, be it types simply not being available anymore or more heavily processing of those that are, ie, removing more of the individual constituents from them. Iirc oil levels were reduced too.

It's hard to describe but in the early days the scoulding of pellet created a slough paste that really bound the pellets well. You could add more hot water to create more of that paste which created a relatively solid method with few if any gaps. More modern pellets (as was back then) create the paste but it didn't bind anywhere near as well. Maybe it's changed again, I wouldn't know, haven't tried for a long time, but still use the like of Dynamite Halibut for loose feed every now and then, might try it.

I did experiment with commercial match binders and things like adding clo, albumin etc, as I rolled my own bait back then on and off, but eventually gave up (coinciding with using inline leads and stringers a bit more again).
MARKerz
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Post #34 17 Nov 2024 08:28
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This can be used & adapted to fish for big carp like most things, bit odd how some feel it's just a small fish tactic.
runneil runneil
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Post #35 17 Nov 2024 14:42
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I agree, a year or two ago I even tried pellets that were described by the website as old school oily pellets ! They didn't work either,

I've added fish oil too to try and mimic those old type of pellets but it's more than that ?

The succes I had back in the day was phenomenal and easily equals the current worm trend !

Back then I only came up with the method as magazines were talking about PVA bags and trout pellets! I couldn't afford PVA bags which were expensive back then so I tried scalded pellets which initially I dismissed as the mix just fell apart, but leaving it overnight was the key.

I started by moulding it around an inline lead then went onto making my own method feeders using a 2 oz bomb and a match anglers groundbait cage !

It was very cheap fishing too , trout pellets and a pot of pup ups !

As for size of carp on this method, we caught everything, back then a 20 was a big fish , I had numerous 20s using it and my friend who took it to the Cotswold water park had several 30s !
Another friend took it to Horseshoe and was the first person to have two 30s in 24 hours, which made the magazines, but got his name wrong 🤣
AideyKaye
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Post #36 18 Nov 2024 16:26
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It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

People will look at Parco and use that as evidence. However if everyone is using it, everyone is catching on it, and it's a main food source for a fish, then of course it'll catch big carp.
Neil_no_Fish
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Post #37 18 Nov 2024 20:53
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I did the same and empti3d Colnbrook west on it multiple recaptures of 30s and my mate even had some of them on same spot and same.method I balled up 20 balls in morning and 20 at night, then a bucket each time I left it was a fish frenzy 24/7
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #38 19 Nov 2024 01:38
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You're spot on re leaving overnight to get the best out of them and it prompted a memory, the newer pellets had a almost gritty texture to the paste, that was defo different.
I was in the same boat when pva came out, far too expensive for me at that time, though I did fork out for the string (loved & still use stringers, even when using method). Some of the 1st method feeders I bought, or was aware of, were the tri vane variety where the vanes were cable tied to the lead (I still have 1 or 2).
My 1st 20 was on method and my biggest fish were both caught on it, from pressurised French waters in the last 10 years, and those fish see it all.

It's not a favoured method (pardon the pun) anymore, but it's no less effective, as long as it's put in the right place with something they want.
Tackle companies won't push it, not enough rig components required, not to mention no dumping of the lead to ensure you keep buying, and I hope it stays like that.

I bet your friend was miffed Getting in a mag back then wasn't that easy (until Carptalk did pages of them). I wasn't likely to do that (cost of a extra pic being the reason) but for some reason, and I can't remember why (probably annoyance), I once did and it got in. Naturally I cut it out, to this day I can't ruddy find it, that'll teach me
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