In reply to Post #25
Why should we worry about the trade price they are getting the prizes for? It doesn't matter if they're getting them for free to us as players/consumers does it. Their profit margin is irrelevant - We know the prize, we know the odds and we know the cost of ticket, all the info is there to make a decision if that appeals or not - if it does I buy a ticket, if it doesn't then I don't (I mostly don't, but occasionally do)
On your other points though, I fully accept that I'm not a compulsive gambler, and some people are....
Why should we worry about the trade price they are getting the prizes for? It doesn't matter if they're getting them for free to us as players/consumers does it. Their profit margin is irrelevant - We know the prize, we know the odds and we know the cost of ticket, all the info is there to make a decision if that appeals or not - if it does I buy a ticket, if it doesn't then I don't (I mostly don't, but occasionally do)
On your other points though, I fully accept that I'm not a compulsive gambler, and some people are....
In reply to Post #31
Fair enough
Just my opinion that the trade price matters as it adds significantly to the margin and the illusion of the win big.
People talk about overheads of running these type of competition- it's no different from a shop - the margin is on the product anyway. Like I say it's the way I am, when stood at the checkout in the local store and the person with a baby in a pram buys the value bread and a couple of scratch cards, my heart sinks, knowing the hope it brings for those few moments.
It's pyramid selling for me - with a huge slice of profit - but appreciate it's a successful business model and like most hinge a passing fad
Fair enough
Just my opinion that the trade price matters as it adds significantly to the margin and the illusion of the win big.
People talk about overheads of running these type of competition- it's no different from a shop - the margin is on the product anyway. Like I say it's the way I am, when stood at the checkout in the local store and the person with a baby in a pram buys the value bread and a couple of scratch cards, my heart sinks, knowing the hope it brings for those few moments.
It's pyramid selling for me - with a huge slice of profit - but appreciate it's a successful business model and like most hinge a passing fad
In reply to Post #30
The National Lottery only launched in the UK in 1994.
The National Lottery only launched in the UK in 1994.
In reply to Post #33
Sure I read prior to Camelot running it it paid out 40% then Camelot reduced it to 25% but the current operators have increased it on paper but fact is the cost to play has risen increasing the revenue and salaries for the operators.
Sure I read prior to Camelot running it it paid out 40% then Camelot reduced it to 25% but the current operators have increased it on paper but fact is the cost to play has risen increasing the revenue and salaries for the operators.
In reply to Post #34
Camelot ran it from its launch in 1994
Never mind...
Camelot ran it from its launch in 1994
Never mind...
In reply to Post #35
Wasn't it once a week when it started? So even if it was 40% it wasn't of very much (relatively) whereas now its 28% of an awful lot more draws, scratchcards, instant win games on the app, etc, etc
Anyways, buy a ticket or don't 🤷🏻♀️
I bet his new van will cost a lot more than 35k......
Wasn't it once a week when it started? So even if it was 40% it wasn't of very much (relatively) whereas now its 28% of an awful lot more draws, scratchcards, instant win games on the app, etc, etc
Anyways, buy a ticket or don't 🤷🏻♀️
I bet his new van will cost a lot more than 35k......
Got absolutely nothing against Mark and his mate doing the competition's
Entered plenty myself on and off but yet to win
What I don't like is the add on's to a comp, Win a hundred tickets for say a bivvy
Entered plenty myself on and off but yet to win
What I don't like is the add on's to a comp, Win a hundred tickets for say a bivvy
In reply to Post #26
Not entirely true! There are a few national / international charities that do employ CEO's & other staff on very high salaries but they are very few and far between especially when you look at the number of charities across the UK. It's very rare that directors or trustees of a charity receive a salary. I'm a CEO of a mid-size charity in Cornwall, have been for nearly 15 years now and I can assure you that my salary is nothing compared to those working in a similar role in the private sector - it's a vocation, definitely not a job if you want to get rich! And for what it's worth 85% of the funding we received last year (£1.65m) went to direct delivery of projects working with vulnerable young people.
Anyway, lottery wise, the amount given to charities has dwindled over the years and it's incredibly competitive to win a grant. We have successfully drawn down lottery funding since 1994 and so, in some ways I win it every month as it contributes to my salary. The fact is though that lottery money now goes to organisations / agencies that really should be funded by the government & not those people buying a ticket once or twice a week. It has become a method of funding programmes and projects that should be centrally funded - even schools can apply for certain lottery funding! Nothing whatsoever to do with the topic so apologies for that!
Not entirely true! There are a few national / international charities that do employ CEO's & other staff on very high salaries but they are very few and far between especially when you look at the number of charities across the UK. It's very rare that directors or trustees of a charity receive a salary. I'm a CEO of a mid-size charity in Cornwall, have been for nearly 15 years now and I can assure you that my salary is nothing compared to those working in a similar role in the private sector - it's a vocation, definitely not a job if you want to get rich! And for what it's worth 85% of the funding we received last year (£1.65m) went to direct delivery of projects working with vulnerable young people.
Anyway, lottery wise, the amount given to charities has dwindled over the years and it's incredibly competitive to win a grant. We have successfully drawn down lottery funding since 1994 and so, in some ways I win it every month as it contributes to my salary. The fact is though that lottery money now goes to organisations / agencies that really should be funded by the government & not those people buying a ticket once or twice a week. It has become a method of funding programmes and projects that should be centrally funded - even schools can apply for certain lottery funding! Nothing whatsoever to do with the topic so apologies for that!
In reply to Post #38
Google is your friend, there's a lot more receiving a salary than you are making out. You may not be, but lots of others do and i mean lots, it's a scandal that certain papers are writing about.
Take a look at the RSPCA, now that's a can of worms opened.
Google is your friend, there's a lot more receiving a salary than you are making out. You may not be, but lots of others do and i mean lots, it's a scandal that certain papers are writing about.
Take a look at the RSPCA, now that's a can of worms opened.
In reply to Post #39
Perhaps freeing captive worms from cans is part of their remit?
If not, then why not?
Perhaps freeing captive worms from cans is part of their remit?
If not, then why not?
In reply to Post #40
Charity is no longer charity they are all con merchant businesses with CEO,s on fortunes .A relative of mine stopped his donations to the RSPCA 30 years ago due to the top brass all getting new mercs.Even McMillan is a con they just rake in millions and do very little other than rake in more .My wife found them useless after recently beating cancer and others say the same .All you see are their fund raisers and fancy pretend adverts .I refuse to give any charity money as it doesn't get where it's supposed to .The whole industry is crooked
Charity is no longer charity they are all con merchant businesses with CEO,s on fortunes .A relative of mine stopped his donations to the RSPCA 30 years ago due to the top brass all getting new mercs.Even McMillan is a con they just rake in millions and do very little other than rake in more .My wife found them useless after recently beating cancer and others say the same .All you see are their fund raisers and fancy pretend adverts .I refuse to give any charity money as it doesn't get where it's supposed to .The whole industry is crooked
In reply to Post #41
We had a very different experience with the MacMillan Nurses. They were brilliant and I have happily donated ever since.
We had a very different experience with the MacMillan Nurses. They were brilliant and I have happily donated ever since.
In reply to Post #42
It's not the nurses though it's those at the top ,majority of them on big salaries. Talk to any NHS nurse or doctor and see what they think of the management structure.
It's not the nurses though it's those at the top ,majority of them on big salaries. Talk to any NHS nurse or doctor and see what they think of the management structure.
In reply to Post #41
The only charity which I donate to now is the Angling Trust. Angling is facing far greater challenges than most.
The only charity which I donate to now is the Angling Trust. Angling is facing far greater challenges than most.
In reply to Post #39
As I said, there are a few national / international charities that pay their CEO's a lot of money. I'm not disputing that but, when you look at the amount of charities that actually exist, the number that pay inflated salaries is very low. As for directors & trustees receiving salaries, which I assume you are referring to (?), I can only speak from my own experience and knowledge of a lot of charities and their boards (albeit on a local / regional level) that trustees and directors very rarely get paid. I do however, admit that my knowledge of national charities and their pay arrangements for board members is limited - as someone who has worked in the sector for over 30 years it's really disheartening that the view of charities is so jaded and critical (maybe deserved?) - all I know is that we work tirelessly to support the most vulnerable in our society and on pay levels that do not match the private or public sector by any stretch of the imagination.
Instead of googling, it's worth checking out the charity commission website which will identify the number of employees being paid over £60k a year in any given charity. Yes, the national / international charities tend to pay above that but certainly not those organisations who will be providing essential services in your community.
As I said, there are a few national / international charities that pay their CEO's a lot of money. I'm not disputing that but, when you look at the amount of charities that actually exist, the number that pay inflated salaries is very low. As for directors & trustees receiving salaries, which I assume you are referring to (?), I can only speak from my own experience and knowledge of a lot of charities and their boards (albeit on a local / regional level) that trustees and directors very rarely get paid. I do however, admit that my knowledge of national charities and their pay arrangements for board members is limited - as someone who has worked in the sector for over 30 years it's really disheartening that the view of charities is so jaded and critical (maybe deserved?) - all I know is that we work tirelessly to support the most vulnerable in our society and on pay levels that do not match the private or public sector by any stretch of the imagination.
Instead of googling, it's worth checking out the charity commission website which will identify the number of employees being paid over £60k a year in any given charity. Yes, the national / international charities tend to pay above that but certainly not those organisations who will be providing essential services in your community.