In reply to Post #27
I use AD for ease as its free delivery on orders over £9 i can find better deals elsewhere but by the time you pay postage or hunted for it, its not really a good deal. I use local tackle shops aswell but i also use AD if im busy and cant make a trip to the shop. There prices are standard in my eyes probally get cheaper elsewhere but atleast i know its a genuine product delivered to my door for free. If you dont like them dont use them simple really isnt it. I dont see why people get so angry about it seriously. Theres bigger things in life to worry about at the moment other than AD prices and stock levels.
I use AD for ease as its free delivery on orders over £9 i can find better deals elsewhere but by the time you pay postage or hunted for it, its not really a good deal. I use local tackle shops aswell but i also use AD if im busy and cant make a trip to the shop. There prices are standard in my eyes probally get cheaper elsewhere but atleast i know its a genuine product delivered to my door for free. If you dont like them dont use them simple really isnt it. I dont see why people get so angry about it seriously. Theres bigger things in life to worry about at the moment other than AD prices and stock levels.
In reply to Post #28
We could probably debate it all day. And it is often very very easy to blame and not take responsibility for one's own actions. I'll approach it from working in the industry for over 25 years, including for one of the world's biggest investment banks. Previous to that, I worked in research science after graduating... I saw more lies and corrupt practice there than I've ever seen in banking. There are a minority in financial services that are total c**ts, in it for themselves, but they are a minority. And there are a hell of a lot of people now, working bloomin long hours, to try and make sure everything doesn't grind to a halt, because if the money supply stops... Well, I think you know what happens then!
We could probably debate it all day. And it is often very very easy to blame and not take responsibility for one's own actions. I'll approach it from working in the industry for over 25 years, including for one of the world's biggest investment banks. Previous to that, I worked in research science after graduating... I saw more lies and corrupt practice there than I've ever seen in banking. There are a minority in financial services that are total c**ts, in it for themselves, but they are a minority. And there are a hell of a lot of people now, working bloomin long hours, to try and make sure everything doesn't grind to a halt, because if the money supply stops... Well, I think you know what happens then!
In reply to Post #31
Same people whining about AD shop in Tesco's Sainsbury's etc a tad hypocritical 😂
Same people whining about AD shop in Tesco's Sainsbury's etc a tad hypocritical 😂
In reply to Post #33
Omg please don't tell me Tesco are buying up tackle shops as well. I can't take anymore.
Asaaasaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Edit. Jesus what if Tesco buy Angling Direct?
Omg please don't tell me Tesco are buying up tackle shops as well. I can't take anymore.
Asaaasaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Edit. Jesus what if Tesco buy Angling Direct?
In reply to Post #34
Awww can't see the irony in your post never mind 😂
Awww can't see the irony in your post never mind 😂
In reply to Post #28
If you borrow from a bank then you get what you asked for. There's a reason they have survived every boom, bust and war but their clients haven't.
The people who do best from banks work for them, then shareholders, then depositors, then borrowers.
If you borrow from a bank then you get what you asked for. There's a reason they have survived every boom, bust and war but their clients haven't.
The people who do best from banks work for them, then shareholders, then depositors, then borrowers.
In reply to Post #28
I think BlankasaurusRex and I rarely agree, but I am with him on this one.
I have seen banks call in loans early, lend mortgages at preferential rates to their own employees, sell a reclaimed property off at a loss and charge the ex-owner the outstanding balance. My ex-wife bought her own flat at a very decent rate, but the company she worked for pulled out of Ipswich. The bank is still deducting money monthly on the outstanding amount.
I had a case of identity theft years ago, the bank tried to charge me for strange transactions on my account, despite me telling them that I had had my debit card and passport stolen, gave them the crime number, they weren't interested. After some grief I closed the account and went elsewhere.
I do not trust banks!
I think it was also BR who said a supplier would much rather have 50 small accounts than 1 big one, but unfortunately the big account often has more buying power.
Having been around for a few years, using both local and chain tackle shops, I can safely say I prefer the local tackle shop; there is a closer personal connection in most cases. A smaller tackle shop will be more ready to 'do a deal' often because they know exactly what an item costs to buy in for them, so will be happy to make a few quid over no sale.
Angling Direct via online or even staff in shop just know a selling price onscreen, they don't have authorisation to do discount.
I think BlankasaurusRex and I rarely agree, but I am with him on this one.
I have seen banks call in loans early, lend mortgages at preferential rates to their own employees, sell a reclaimed property off at a loss and charge the ex-owner the outstanding balance. My ex-wife bought her own flat at a very decent rate, but the company she worked for pulled out of Ipswich. The bank is still deducting money monthly on the outstanding amount.
I had a case of identity theft years ago, the bank tried to charge me for strange transactions on my account, despite me telling them that I had had my debit card and passport stolen, gave them the crime number, they weren't interested. After some grief I closed the account and went elsewhere.
I do not trust banks!
I think it was also BR who said a supplier would much rather have 50 small accounts than 1 big one, but unfortunately the big account often has more buying power.
Having been around for a few years, using both local and chain tackle shops, I can safely say I prefer the local tackle shop; there is a closer personal connection in most cases. A smaller tackle shop will be more ready to 'do a deal' often because they know exactly what an item costs to buy in for them, so will be happy to make a few quid over no sale.
Angling Direct via online or even staff in shop just know a selling price onscreen, they don't have authorisation to do discount.
The Angling direct are buying out the competition, simple business strategy. Once they have control of the major market they can and will do whatever they please. That's price fixing for the customers, filtering suppliers and nailing them down on prices, this will put a lot out of business, to doing what they like, you name it and it is going to happen 
Like mentioned earlier, I have bought a bit of stuff from Total fishing tackle and a few other shops. Look around all the long term shops in most areas have either folded or sold out, not good at all but that's carpfishing and commercialism for you, purely and nothing but a business and a cut throat one at that
Same with gear with a label on it, the shops make virtually nothing, they have undercut each other so much to survive they are probably not worth running. The money is in the cheaper non labels stuff. Lad was once telling me they made £12 on a £400 reel, that's never good business is it?
That's why when you have the buying power and a monopoly of the major outlets like AD will have they can put the screw on the suppliers too, but I can guarantee you this, the savings will most defiantly not becoming our way it's going to the shareholders, the business men, minimal input, maximum output, not the tackle shop owner of old who yes, he probably did make a decent living, good on him, but at least he was in it for a real passion too not purely the £ like these shareholders are
Like mentioned earlier, I have bought a bit of stuff from Total fishing tackle and a few other shops. Look around all the long term shops in most areas have either folded or sold out, not good at all but that's carpfishing and commercialism for you, purely and nothing but a business and a cut throat one at that
Same with gear with a label on it, the shops make virtually nothing, they have undercut each other so much to survive they are probably not worth running. The money is in the cheaper non labels stuff. Lad was once telling me they made £12 on a £400 reel, that's never good business is it?
That's why when you have the buying power and a monopoly of the major outlets like AD will have they can put the screw on the suppliers too, but I can guarantee you this, the savings will most defiantly not becoming our way it's going to the shareholders, the business men, minimal input, maximum output, not the tackle shop owner of old who yes, he probably did make a decent living, good on him, but at least he was in it for a real passion too not purely the £ like these shareholders are
In reply to Post #19
I tend to agree with you apart from paragraph 3 first sentence. Private equity and Venture capital outfits are not banks, mostly American. They just have access to huge sums of borrowed money. Buy a business, leverage the debt for buying the business onto the business. Aggressively cut costs, regardless of the future impact on the business, make your stake back quickly, anything else is a profit. Asset strip where possible. These type of investment vehicles are the real unearned income choice of many investors. The playing golf everyday on exclusive course types.
Simple model- buy in large quantities from the far east- sell for £'s in the UK- transfer profit to the USA.
I tend to agree with you apart from paragraph 3 first sentence. Private equity and Venture capital outfits are not banks, mostly American. They just have access to huge sums of borrowed money. Buy a business, leverage the debt for buying the business onto the business. Aggressively cut costs, regardless of the future impact on the business, make your stake back quickly, anything else is a profit. Asset strip where possible. These type of investment vehicles are the real unearned income choice of many investors. The playing golf everyday on exclusive course types.
Simple model- buy in large quantities from the far east- sell for £'s in the UK- transfer profit to the USA.
In reply to Post #37
I wasn't going to answer this Nick, but I might as well comment on a little, especially to someone who used to work as a "consultant" for Bait and Feed, because your own morals will be high, obviously, on that basis.
"mortgages at preferential rates to their own employees" - So you have never worked for an employer that gave you a discount on your their own products, then? Didn't you work at a gym - did you not get discounted membership? Are Tesco's staff scoundrels because they get discount off their food shopping? FYI, staff mortgage discounts are not particularly great, and they are also taxed as a benefit in kind. The end result is actually very few staff take them up.
"sell a reclaimed property off at a loss and charge the ex-owner the outstanding balance". Are you talking about a repo? If so, they if you are in negative equity, you are still liable for the debt. That's property law, not any financial institution making it up
"My ex-wife bought her own flat at a very decent rate, but the company she worked for pulled out of Ipswich. The bank is still deducting money monthly on the outstanding amount" - If you want to PM me I may be able to give you the reason why but can't work out really what you mean by that.
"I had a case of identity theft years ago, the bank tried to charge me for strange transactions on my account, despite me telling them that I had had my debit card and passport stolen, gave them the crime number, they weren't interested. After some grief I closed the account and went elsewhere". Sadly you are right here, and I agree 100%, customer service until a few years ago was terrible in this aspect. It has changed now, but I can see why you changed.
"I do not trust banks! - Well let's just hope we all get through this, because if the financial institutions really decide to call in all their debts, that will include every mortgage, unsecured loan, and credit card in the nation. Then we will all be rightly F**ked as a society"
Right....I better get back to work....in your favourite industry....
But on to the more serious point, perhaps we as a society should buy British, support British Industry, especially independent tackle shops, Johnson Ross and the like. Should we be happy Korda charge several quid for a packet of far eastern hooks that cost pennies? Food for thought?
I wasn't going to answer this Nick, but I might as well comment on a little, especially to someone who used to work as a "consultant" for Bait and Feed, because your own morals will be high, obviously, on that basis.
"mortgages at preferential rates to their own employees" - So you have never worked for an employer that gave you a discount on your their own products, then? Didn't you work at a gym - did you not get discounted membership? Are Tesco's staff scoundrels because they get discount off their food shopping? FYI, staff mortgage discounts are not particularly great, and they are also taxed as a benefit in kind. The end result is actually very few staff take them up.
"sell a reclaimed property off at a loss and charge the ex-owner the outstanding balance". Are you talking about a repo? If so, they if you are in negative equity, you are still liable for the debt. That's property law, not any financial institution making it up
"My ex-wife bought her own flat at a very decent rate, but the company she worked for pulled out of Ipswich. The bank is still deducting money monthly on the outstanding amount" - If you want to PM me I may be able to give you the reason why but can't work out really what you mean by that.
"I had a case of identity theft years ago, the bank tried to charge me for strange transactions on my account, despite me telling them that I had had my debit card and passport stolen, gave them the crime number, they weren't interested. After some grief I closed the account and went elsewhere". Sadly you are right here, and I agree 100%, customer service until a few years ago was terrible in this aspect. It has changed now, but I can see why you changed.
"I do not trust banks! - Well let's just hope we all get through this, because if the financial institutions really decide to call in all their debts, that will include every mortgage, unsecured loan, and credit card in the nation. Then we will all be rightly F**ked as a society"
Right....I better get back to work....in your favourite industry....
But on to the more serious point, perhaps we as a society should buy British, support British Industry, especially independent tackle shops, Johnson Ross and the like. Should we be happy Korda charge several quid for a packet of far eastern hooks that cost pennies? Food for thought?
angling direct have put the minimum price up on free delivery,yesterday £9 today £16. obviously cashing in on people buying bits to do rigs at home...they dont miss a trick
In reply to Post #41
Spool of braid,pack of hooks nearly £16 quid anyway tbf
Spool of braid,pack of hooks nearly £16 quid anyway tbf
In reply to Post #40
Please don't get on the moral stance about my past with Bait and Feed co, yes I did defend them, but once I found out what was going on I refused to have anything to do with them.
My ex, the bank sold the property at a loss, yes, she is still owing the outstanding after she and thousands of others working at John Player were laid off, made redundant, pulled out of Ipswich, but the bank did have offers close to the market value which they turned down in favour of a quick sale.
In terms of morgages at preferential terms, I have an ex landlord who was buying up properties on mortgages that had been defaulted, then getting mortgages himself on letting the property.
I have no grief with staff getting discounts on gym membership, or staff discount on goods purchased from within the company they work for, but perusing defaults?
I'm glad I don't have a credit card or mortgage😉
I would much rather we produced locally rather than in the Middle East, is Mustad the only hook company that still manufactures in Europe?
Even Drennan/ESP have gone to Korea I think, although with a British overseer.
Yes, I would much rather support British companies and my local tackle shop.
Please don't get on the moral stance about my past with Bait and Feed co, yes I did defend them, but once I found out what was going on I refused to have anything to do with them.
My ex, the bank sold the property at a loss, yes, she is still owing the outstanding after she and thousands of others working at John Player were laid off, made redundant, pulled out of Ipswich, but the bank did have offers close to the market value which they turned down in favour of a quick sale.
In terms of morgages at preferential terms, I have an ex landlord who was buying up properties on mortgages that had been defaulted, then getting mortgages himself on letting the property.
I have no grief with staff getting discounts on gym membership, or staff discount on goods purchased from within the company they work for, but perusing defaults?
I'm glad I don't have a credit card or mortgage😉
I would much rather we produced locally rather than in the Middle East, is Mustad the only hook company that still manufactures in Europe?
Even Drennan/ESP have gone to Korea I think, although with a British overseer.
Yes, I would much rather support British companies and my local tackle shop.
In reply to Post #43
There crap never got proper stock levels staff who don't really know what there selling , stick to Johnson Ross miles in front & all lads know the game AD jog on . Simples
There crap never got proper stock levels staff who don't really know what there selling , stick to Johnson Ross miles in front & all lads know the game AD jog on . Simples
In reply to Post #41
Good business after all that's what they're there for to make a profit
Good business after all that's what they're there for to make a profit