In reply to Post #20
Hi
"My missus could drive a boat to an island/far bank"
And mine did, i didnt see exactly how she did it but she managed to beach it on the island, i had to row out to get it back
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Jon
Hi
"My missus could drive a boat to an island/far bank"
And mine did, i didnt see exactly how she did it but she managed to beach it on the island, i had to row out to get it back
Best
Jon
So where does a baiting pole sit ethically with those that have a problem with boats ?
Obviously you don't need to cast and you can poke one as far into snags as you like, but they don't get the same amount of hate as a boat as far I can see.
Obviously you don't need to cast and you can poke one as far into snags as you like, but they don't get the same amount of hate as a boat as far I can see.
This should be retitled The self righteous thread.
In reply to Post #32
Whatever method they use to get their bait to their chosen spot no one should fish deep into snags
Perhaps one of the reasons the pole gets less attention is that they are say 18m max and your less likely to piss other people off?
Whatever method they use to get their bait to their chosen spot no one should fish deep into snags
Perhaps one of the reasons the pole gets less attention is that they are say 18m max and your less likely to piss other people off?
In reply to Post #33
Yes self righteous boat owners who piss others off and think they are the problem
Yes self righteous boat owners who piss others off and think they are the problem
In reply to Post #35
I'd ban them on all waters. If you can't cast to it then you shouldn't be able to fish it. If there are areas on a lake where the fish can be without being disturbed then fair enough.
I used to fish a venue where there were some 'regulars' who would think nothing of driving their little toy over my baits from 100 yards or more and then get p*ssy with me if I hooked and picked up their lines.
I'd ban them on all waters. If you can't cast to it then you shouldn't be able to fish it. If there are areas on a lake where the fish can be without being disturbed then fair enough.
I used to fish a venue where there were some 'regulars' who would think nothing of driving their little toy over my baits from 100 yards or more and then get p*ssy with me if I hooked and picked up their lines.
In reply to Post #30
In reply to Post #36
But you get that with people casting over your lines ..... I say ban casting if you can't use a bait boat don't go fishing
But you get that with people casting over your lines ..... I say ban casting if you can't use a bait boat don't go fishing
Hi all
Before this goes too far, i know there are a number of very accomplished anglers on this forum who use bait boats basically for medical reasons ( be it arthritis, sciatica or other reasons).
No reason they werent better casters than most in their day and no reason for them to get grief on here or be banned from venues because of it.
Its education of the the idiots not dictatorial "nanny state" rules thats going to improve things
No real reason anyone's put forward that should lead to a ban on bait boats apart that idiots are allowed to buy them and apparently people that cant afford them want them banned?
Best
Jon
Before this goes too far, i know there are a number of very accomplished anglers on this forum who use bait boats basically for medical reasons ( be it arthritis, sciatica or other reasons).
No reason they werent better casters than most in their day and no reason for them to get grief on here or be banned from venues because of it.
Its education of the the idiots not dictatorial "nanny state" rules thats going to improve things
No real reason anyone's put forward that should lead to a ban on bait boats apart that idiots are allowed to buy them and apparently people that cant afford them want them banned?
Best
Jon
The beauty is we have the choice. On all the water I fish, and the vast majority of those I'm considering fishing, they're already banned anyway. Plenty of waters that allow them so something for all of us.
In reply to Post #36
Narrow minded comment, ban them from all waters!
So you would rather have people casting into trees and onto islands and snapping rigs off into lakes rather than a bait boat. Anglers who think they can cast are more of an issue than bait boat users. Anglers who take 10 attempts to get it on a spot are more of an issue than bait boats. Anglers who spomb the water to death are more of an issue than bait boats.
What's your thoughts on big European waters like Cassien? Can't we fish those anymore either as you have to row your boats out in a lot of instance there as well.
According to your logic as well, as a pike angler I can no longer fish for example half the marks on Windermere because i can't cast a big mackerel bait and 3oz lead over hundred yards in a cross wind to the drop offs.
Narrow minded comment, ban them from all waters!
So you would rather have people casting into trees and onto islands and snapping rigs off into lakes rather than a bait boat. Anglers who think they can cast are more of an issue than bait boat users. Anglers who take 10 attempts to get it on a spot are more of an issue than bait boats. Anglers who spomb the water to death are more of an issue than bait boats.
What's your thoughts on big European waters like Cassien? Can't we fish those anymore either as you have to row your boats out in a lot of instance there as well.
According to your logic as well, as a pike angler I can no longer fish for example half the marks on Windermere because i can't cast a big mackerel bait and 3oz lead over hundred yards in a cross wind to the drop offs.
In reply to Post #39
Imho if you only fish in what most people would call 'your swims water' i.e only half way across and only half way to each swim either side. Then you can cast , or use a catapult or method ball . Or bait boat to your hearts content. I personally fish waters. where bait boats are banned .spombing is minimal due to encouraging Bream. Also the carp are wary of heavy baiting, all the anglers in the know, bait lightly and as quietly as possible .Ffs most actually use catapults after dark because the gulls will eat 95% of what you put out in daylight. Especially if you can't put a large pouchfull out at a time. If your fishing a longer range mark then it's essential to be spombing accurately.
Imho if you only fish in what most people would call 'your swims water' i.e only half way across and only half way to each swim either side. Then you can cast , or use a catapult or method ball . Or bait boat to your hearts content. I personally fish waters. where bait boats are banned .spombing is minimal due to encouraging Bream. Also the carp are wary of heavy baiting, all the anglers in the know, bait lightly and as quietly as possible .Ffs most actually use catapults after dark because the gulls will eat 95% of what you put out in daylight. Especially if you can't put a large pouchfull out at a time. If your fishing a longer range mark then it's essential to be spombing accurately.
In reply to Post #41
I'm not narrow minded just because my opinion differs from yours.
As I said. If there are areas on any lake that cannot be reached and so give the fish some respite then I'm happy with that.
Cassien and Windermere weren't created for you to catch at all costs I'm afraid. The pike in Windermere aren't your own personal stash.
On commercial waters that are purpose built I guess it's up to the owner to set their own rules. As I said also, if it was me I'd have a ban.
I fish the sea from the beach too. There are loads of places I can't cast to there. I still catch and still enjoy it.
I'm not narrow minded just because my opinion differs from yours.
As I said. If there are areas on any lake that cannot be reached and so give the fish some respite then I'm happy with that.
Cassien and Windermere weren't created for you to catch at all costs I'm afraid. The pike in Windermere aren't your own personal stash.
On commercial waters that are purpose built I guess it's up to the owner to set their own rules. As I said also, if it was me I'd have a ban.
I fish the sea from the beach too. There are loads of places I can't cast to there. I still catch and still enjoy it.
Luckily the only time I see them is when I fish in France. Then it amazes me watching them use them even for an under arm chuck!
It doesnt bother me either way tbh if someone wants to use a bait boat let them. I will say though I would much prefer someone using a bait boat to put there bait in then some idiot spombing the hell out of the water right next to me and not caring if it effects anyones else fishing.
I do own a bait boat but use my spomb more often. I only use my boat on one water only and that's because of certain pegs if you can get under a tree line it gives u a massive advantage and before anyone says it's not dangerously under the trees into snags the tree canopy stops about 5 to 6 foot above the water. As for everywhere else I dont use it but that's personal preference
I do own a bait boat but use my spomb more often. I only use my boat on one water only and that's because of certain pegs if you can get under a tree line it gives u a massive advantage and before anyone says it's not dangerously under the trees into snags the tree canopy stops about 5 to 6 foot above the water. As for everywhere else I dont use it but that's personal preference