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Peter Regan, Meat Bait ? (86 posts / 19,861 views)
scaley&dark
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Post #31 4 Mar 2019 19:41
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He must be ordering serious amounts for a pet food manufacturer to take interest and make something specific to his recipe.

or the more believable line would be that he just mixing various 'ready made cat biscuits/products' to meet his bait requirements.
MMMMmmm Munchies

NickGordon NickGordon
Posts: 3,121
Post #32 4 Mar 2019 21:47
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Weren't some of Kevin Maddocks original baits based on cat and dog foods? Wouldn't take much to dig out my Carp Fever...

I heard a rumour about the attraction source in Trigga, a silky secret I hear...
Used in a number of animal feeds as well.

That stuff was awesome, my dog would eat any boilies, but most failed the cat test; When I made Trigga boilie, my next door neighbours cat would sneak round and be pinching baits off the drying racks as fast as I made them.

Must admit I stopped following Nutrabaits when Big Bill sold up first time, although I still keep him on FB friends list.
scaley&dark
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Post #33 4 Mar 2019 21:54
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Most cat biscuits are full of interesting ingredients and taste and appetite stimulants and oils.
Around 30% protein some of them, so good enough for a carp.
Hardest bit is grinding them down.

NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,425
Post #34 4 Mar 2019 22:08
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Always thought it was chicken liver powder tbh. Great bait the original.. Destroyed Rockford.
scozza
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Post #35 4 Mar 2019 22:40
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Trigga?

Funny smell, could never put my finger on it, I thought a liquid liver base, when I used to roll it I always though I could smell brown sauce
scaley&dark
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Post #36 4 Mar 2019 22:55
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Tripe and Gravy ?

kells kells
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Post #37 4 Mar 2019 23:27
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One of the first boiled baits I ever made was a ground down cat biscuit bait courtesy of Maddock Carp Fever. From memory it contained ground up Munchies, sodium casienate, wheat germ and semo. Stuck like **** to a blanket. Bugger to roll and doubled in size when boiled


. Don't think we caught much on it ether. And me mates mum's coffee grinder was never the same again..
scozza
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Post #38 5 Mar 2019 06:01
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Sounds disgusting enough that, you wouldn't wanna drink a pint



NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #39 5 Mar 2019 07:08
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Trigga:
I have a feeling after something I was told is the attraction was silkworm. Trigga came out not long after ground silkworm started being used in animal husbandry in preference to meat meals.

There was another bait company who released a very similar bait, in fact the attractor liquid packages were able to be swapped, but I also heard about industrial espionage on that, and someone in the company when he heard what happened stopped making the bait. It is the reason one bait guru and the name behind the company don't get on.
scaley&dark
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Post #40 5 Mar 2019 08:39
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Japanese koi specialists have used Silkworm pupae for years.

Silkworm Pupae is normally given as a treat that Koi appreciate.
A known natural source for fast growth and good colour enhancement.
High protein content & easily digestible.
Cat, Dog or Carp it is a win win.

Poots
Posts: 228
Post #41 5 Mar 2019 10:00
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There was a range of baits with this in at one time, maruku or some such, now defunct.
Zack
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Post #42 5 Mar 2019 11:39
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There was a range of baits with this in at one time, maruku or some such, now defunct.

It's Marukyu and its still on the go. I use the Silkworm additive concentrate that they sell as a glug and in stick mixes but never noticed anything special about it.

Maybe I should try harder.
Gary76
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Post #43 5 Mar 2019 11:50
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ulrikplate ulrikplate
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Post #44 5 Mar 2019 12:27
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How do you rate the pulling power of the silkworm meal?
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #45 5 Mar 2019 13:04
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I use it an quite high levels of 2-300g per kilo. In live tests the baits containing SWM were approached with little cautions and eaten more or less straight away. A scoopful of the meal itself scattered under an overhanging tree, saw carp respond instantly to the fine particles that floated briefly on the surface. Larger particles were eaten on the drop. A bait dropped full of the raw SWM saw carp respond quickly to its presence and once in the swim they proceeded to rip it to shreds!

I now include it in all my baitat 100-150g/500g base mix. and I am certain it makes a difference.

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