In reply to Post #14
I only have a saxo and have owned it near on 20 years. Still using 12ft rods altho at times would be nice to have shorter rods due to lack of space etc.

In reply to Post #30
but if your playing a fish would the last few feet of the rod not be bent over ? eliminating the need to kneel / have shorter rods ?!

In reply to Post #30
if you have enough headroom to cast then surely you have enough to play a fish?

I use my 10 ft rods when using a boat ,much less cumbersome than my 13ft rods which are my preferred rods if casting and playing from the bank.
You don't always have to play fish with the rod above your head ,use side strain or even underwater if that's the only place you can get the space

In reply to Post #34


cast sideways and play fish with rod tip just above surface water.

In reply to Post #24
If I was fishing a lake that size I wouldn't use 6foot rods

Use what you want, ain't no rules

Times change, fishing moves on and so does the methods. My carp first rod was a 11 footer, my second a 12 foot 2 1/4 test casting tool.

For me a good allround carp rod these days is a 12 foot 3 1/4 test (depending on action etc). This will cover most modern carping requirements and situations. Start with PVA bags, extra distance reaching fish or features and different venues etc. you will be left wanting

Sold my HiS 10 footers, fish a variety of waters, couldn't justify them sat in my garage

Wish I could have all the money back I have wasted on gear over the years £££££

In reply to Post #37
I look back to over 50 years of fishing and 45 years of drinking beer

Could have been retired and fishing loads if i hadn't wasted all that money on beer

In reply to Post #33
Under arm cast?

In reply to Post #25
No boats , or bait boats.

In reply to Post #38
45 years lol. Your about 15 up on me

Enjoy your fishing and drinking pal

In terms of being able to move/relocate more easily with shorter rods - something I hear touted as a great benefit by guys in my clubs - I've never found the weight of an extra 2 foot of carbon particularly difficult to cart around. Unless you were leaving the rods set up and negotiating tight passageways or lots of vegetation I can't really see that the additional few feet of normal length rods is too difficult to manage either.

I'd personally rather have the extra few feet to be able to reach around/over marginal snags and hold my line above weed.

The short rods have always seemed a bit gimmicky to me for carping, but only because I've only had 12 footers. Used 10ft float and 6 foot lure rods before and not had any issues with these.

In reply to Post #42
Looks to me like I've opened a can of worms.

Sorry if I've missed it but has anyone stated any actual benefit of 9/10 foot Rods over 12 other than transportation?

The reason I think it's all a bit gimmicky is that go back 5 years when I used to circulate these forums and not one thread would be found enquiringly about them other than for stalking.....

Then Nash comes along with a massive marketing scheme and everyone's deciding to change?

I think noj pointed out that shorter Rods have been available forever......how comes these guys that feel they should use 10ft Rods now didn't do so before?

I dont hate fashion, but I don't like fashion for the sake of fashion.....

Oh how modern marketing casts a shadow over so many people 🙈🙈😂

In reply to Post #24
Like I say, I don't fish "big" waters, so I never need a 200 yard cast, and there's never a 4 mile walk around to the other side .
But I see your point.
Horses for courses as you say.

It's like you see these people with the little fold up bikes you see. Why have a little gold up 1 when you can have a normal size bike?