Don't really focus on competitions but when I've tried to sell stuff people think.you must be desperate. Loads of ****kickers out there who want stuff for next to nothing. Tried to sell 3 original solar butt bangers on here a while back... wanted 20 plus postage. Some cheeky fecker offered 15. Ended up giving them to some keen kids on my local club water.
I really can't imagine many people win anything worthwhile in those raffles, preying upon some people's weaknesses.
Especially at a level to effect the tackle trade or second hand values.
More likely there is a lot of people with less money in their pockets. Also the lack of quality affordable fisheries is surely causing the decline in numbers carp fishing.
Especially at a level to effect the tackle trade or second hand values.
More likely there is a lot of people with less money in their pockets. Also the lack of quality affordable fisheries is surely causing the decline in numbers carp fishing.
In reply to Post #1
They shouldn't be allowed to call them competitions, there is no competing, they are simply a raffle.
They shouldn't be allowed to call them competitions, there is no competing, they are simply a raffle.
In reply to Post #18
I don't enter these "competitions" and have no intention of doing so, as far as
I'm concerned they're just another part of the rubbish modern culture that has taken hold of this country. Nobody wants to work hard and save for anything anymore so entering these Comps is a cheap way of potentially getting something you can't afford. I remember flying through airports about 15yrs ago and there would be say a Lamborghini in the Departure Lounge that you could pay £5 and potentially win, it's no different and just gets adapted and made for a different market.
On the affecting Tackle Shop sales, it doesn't affect them at all as 99% of the time the company running the Competition will physically purchase the Competition Item from say Johnson Ross or The Tackle Box etc and have it shipped directly to the "Winner".
The only part of the Tackle Market it affects is the 2nd Hand Market as there are loads of New or Nearly New items about at knock down prices.
I don't enter these "competitions" and have no intention of doing so, as far as
I'm concerned they're just another part of the rubbish modern culture that has taken hold of this country. Nobody wants to work hard and save for anything anymore so entering these Comps is a cheap way of potentially getting something you can't afford. I remember flying through airports about 15yrs ago and there would be say a Lamborghini in the Departure Lounge that you could pay £5 and potentially win, it's no different and just gets adapted and made for a different market.
On the affecting Tackle Shop sales, it doesn't affect them at all as 99% of the time the company running the Competition will physically purchase the Competition Item from say Johnson Ross or The Tackle Box etc and have it shipped directly to the "Winner".
The only part of the Tackle Market it affects is the 2nd Hand Market as there are loads of New or Nearly New items about at knock down prices.
In reply to Post #19
Youre wrong,it is affecting the tackleshops especially when one of the biggest at doing this has opened their own shop to get accounts with the suppliers.They are cutting out the middle man so making even more profit
Youre wrong,it is affecting the tackleshops especially when one of the biggest at doing this has opened their own shop to get accounts with the suppliers.They are cutting out the middle man so making even more profit
Competitions
I really dislike the concept of effectively selling tackle for three times it's shop value via a draw. In this day and age I don't see gambling as a flutter just a desperate attempt to own something people can't afford. As I've always said go into The Tackle Box with 4 mates and say if we all give you £200 can you pick one of us to win £500 tackle voucher? That way at least you know the winner, shorter odds - but you just wouldn't would you?
Ease of advertising
With market place and the like listing tackle has never been easier, which causes a price drop and can mug some people off when they are listing at a higher price than a shop with offers on the products.
Faith in pricing
Aside from a small number of manufacturers/ shops - most of us have seen 50-70% off offers in shops - I walked round a show with a shop owner who saw some prices that were below his trade price.if you spend £300 on say a Greys rod, then in a year it's worth about £150 (in my mind) but if it's being sold end of line for £150 new, your value is now £80 ish
Covid / trend
Plenty of people started up fishing in covid or went back to it - as it was what we'd be reconditioned to do - connect with the outdoors and enjoy life. Now we are back to the bustle - now the day ticket waters have got a bit tougher to catch a newly stocked 30 or 40 then everything goes up for sale - toy boat and all.
The only real downside of purchasing second hand is the absolute crap service from the main players - that all tell you to go back to the shop when things go wrong.
If you want something it usually turns up second hand if you want to wait - but we can't have it both ways - a good local tackle shop does so much more than sell tackle and I fear for the future.
I really dislike the concept of effectively selling tackle for three times it's shop value via a draw. In this day and age I don't see gambling as a flutter just a desperate attempt to own something people can't afford. As I've always said go into The Tackle Box with 4 mates and say if we all give you £200 can you pick one of us to win £500 tackle voucher? That way at least you know the winner, shorter odds - but you just wouldn't would you?
Ease of advertising
With market place and the like listing tackle has never been easier, which causes a price drop and can mug some people off when they are listing at a higher price than a shop with offers on the products.
Faith in pricing
Aside from a small number of manufacturers/ shops - most of us have seen 50-70% off offers in shops - I walked round a show with a shop owner who saw some prices that were below his trade price.if you spend £300 on say a Greys rod, then in a year it's worth about £150 (in my mind) but if it's being sold end of line for £150 new, your value is now £80 ish
Covid / trend
Plenty of people started up fishing in covid or went back to it - as it was what we'd be reconditioned to do - connect with the outdoors and enjoy life. Now we are back to the bustle - now the day ticket waters have got a bit tougher to catch a newly stocked 30 or 40 then everything goes up for sale - toy boat and all.
The only real downside of purchasing second hand is the absolute crap service from the main players - that all tell you to go back to the shop when things go wrong.
If you want something it usually turns up second hand if you want to wait - but we can't have it both ways - a good local tackle shop does so much more than sell tackle and I fear for the future.
In reply to Post #3
I'm guessing a lot of the new stuff being sold is unwanted competition prizes.
Or insurance jobs, scams, stolen from Evri
I'm guessing a lot of the new stuff being sold is unwanted competition prizes.
Or insurance jobs, scams, stolen from Evri
Brexit, covid, and 16 years of Austerity is the very obvious answer. I think people are doing serious mental gymnastics to try and suggest the Raffle companies are the issue. The raffle companies are a result of the cost of living rising, they prey on poor people, they are not the cause of it. People are skint.
There's a power tool shop that started doing a few raffles a couple of years ago and have now blown up and their raffle side of the company is now worth more than the actual power tool sales side...and they obviously get stuff at cost price tool wise.
Things are obviously there to be won by people but some people are dropping hundreds of pounds on tickets for that dopamine.
Things are obviously there to be won by people but some people are dropping hundreds of pounds on tickets for that dopamine.
Entered one once 6/7yrs ago. £2 48hrs on linear all food and bait in with a venue expert. Fished all my life but had only carp fished for 18 months or so. Great session and walked away with knowledge to help on my local waters.
The best £2 I've ever spent. Never had another go on any since.
Only did it to help me improve and it did many thanks Leon if you are still on here.
Paul then from Yarmouth.
The best £2 I've ever spent. Never had another go on any since.
Only did it to help me improve and it did many thanks Leon if you are still on here.
Paul then from Yarmouth.
In reply to Post #24
I know a lad who started a company raffling car parts, that ended up regularly raffling £100k+ cars, couple of the raffles undersold and it bankrupted him.
I know a lad who started a company raffling car parts, that ended up regularly raffling £100k+ cars, couple of the raffles undersold and it bankrupted him.
In reply to Post #26
A lad i worked with who lived local to me paid £14 for 2 tickets to one and won a £75k BMW and he took the car over the cash.... they tried hard to get him to take the money instead at first but eventually he got the car and has been made up with it, bar having to fill the thing with petrol
A lad i worked with who lived local to me paid £14 for 2 tickets to one and won a £75k BMW and he took the car over the cash.... they tried hard to get him to take the money instead at first but eventually he got the car and has been made up with it, bar having to fill the thing with petrol
Entered non, never lost, so that makes me a winner 
In reply to Post #28
Same
Same
In reply to Post #28
I say the same about the lottery lol
I say the same about the lottery lol