In reply to Post #16
bit harsh though!

In reply to Post #16
What were you buying from BAF that you can't get elsewhere?

Managed to get my favourite flavour from them before it went out of stock.

1 ml per 6 eggs so 250ml should last a while.

I think what's p155ed me off the most is the realisation that I've got to start a load of R&D again. Buy loads of pop up mix from various suppliers, most of which will end up in the bin and try to replicate my current hookbaits. I did all this years ago. When you are a small producer on limited time, the ability to just pop out to the bait shed and knock out a few hundred baits and know you won't have any wastage is important as margins are tight. With the BAF mix I had it all dialled in, now back to square one. Grrrrrrrrr

In reply to Post #20
Unfortunately it's inevitable with home rolling & small scale. I suppose on the upside the time and effort to redial in is the same as the bigger producers, a pita though!

I only listened to Callum Wilson Carp Chronicles podcast the other week where he more of less said innovation in the bait industry comes from the home rollers as they are the ones experimenting and looking for different ingredients.

Would anyone point me in the direction of a replacement for SenseAttract 1.

In reply to Post #15
I see Feed stimulants do oleoresin fenugreek. Im not sure they deliver to the uk now. I have bought stuff off them in the past.

In reply to Post #24
Yes they do deliver to the UK at 25euro minimum shipping cost.

Still not found an alternative to Feedstim though so might have to go down that route very soon

In reply to Post #25
I don't understand anything about bait making, can you not use this or is it completely different to fishing stuff https://www.thesoapery.co.uk/products/fenugreek-oil

I feel the frustration and I wouldn't even call myself a ‘bait maker' on the same level as anyone else here. But after years of reading bits and bobs and having ideas, making notes, I finally kitted myself out with a few bits and have a few pop up recipes I really like. Very much still trial and error, and it would have carried over into boilies too as once I get into something I tend to go whole hog. The pop up mix was great for an amateur such as myself, plus I liked plenty of their flavours, additives and other products for general fishing too.

Quite surprised, but I guess there's quite a few potential factors behind it.

In reply to Post #26
I want the oleresin not the oil. Most types you see are cut/mixed with a carrier for different applications such as aromatherapy. I had my dose level sorted out with first the Feedstim and then a bottle of the BAF and now I will have to find another source and try and adjust the levels to match again or pay the high shipping cost from Feedstim.

Not the end of the world but frustrating. I did get 250ml of a flavour this week that I use from them in a different mix, that will make me over 100kg of bait and should last me a good few years.

In reply to Post #27
Just checked the DNA Baits website as I believe they are closely linked with BAF. They have pop up mix on the site (possibly the same as the BAF?) but it is shown as out of stock. Could be worth an email?

In reply to Post #29
Having tried the dna pop up mix, if it is the same as years ago, it was naff!

If you really want airball pop ups then the Shillams mix used to be decent.

I always think air ball mixes are a bit of a waste tbh. So much space taken up with glass and air in such a small ball of bait.