In reply to Post #14
I agree with Gerry and Baitman, wear the right gear and man up or go home.
Bivvy heaters are a no no.
I agree with Gerry and Baitman, wear the right gear and man up or go home.
Bivvy heaters are a no no.
In reply to Post #14
Very true.. I can't remember the last time it was properly cold.
Most winters were waking up to the lake frozen, the kettle solid and when packing down the overwrap it kept its shape 🥶🥶
Very true.. I can't remember the last time it was properly cold.
Most winters were waking up to the lake frozen, the kettle solid and when packing down the overwrap it kept its shape 🥶🥶
Lay off the bivvy heaters' there has been some tragic news on here over the years, ain't with it 
As mentioned there is some top quality clothing about nowadays, couple this with a good quality sleep suit, no need for heaters, if it's a must then you can take the chill out of the air with a stove on a morning but my advise would be to leave these outside the tent too, my Coleman was passing fuel at one point, not good
I thought it was all about been in the great outdoors!
As mentioned there is some top quality clothing about nowadays, couple this with a good quality sleep suit, no need for heaters, if it's a must then you can take the chill out of the air with a stove on a morning but my advise would be to leave these outside the tent too, my Coleman was passing fuel at one point, not good
I thought it was all about been in the great outdoors!
In reply to Post #1
i wouldnt use a heater or anything in a bivvy personally
i wouldnt use a heater or anything in a bivvy personally
I'm with everyone don't bother with heater,take warm clothing with you because you can put it on ir take it off if you have it with you,to risky with a heater I've just bought a wrap for my trakker(last week)it helps with less condensation and a little bit of extra warmth too.
I remember catching carp on the river in Southampton 10 plus years ago it was -5 but coldest I used to fish was when me & my brother used to go fishing when we were younger snow on ground half a lake with a lid on even on a Christmas Day morning and enjoyed it because we were warm.
I remember catching carp on the river in Southampton 10 plus years ago it was -5 but coldest I used to fish was when me & my brother used to go fishing when we were younger snow on ground half a lake with a lid on even on a Christmas Day morning and enjoyed it because we were warm.
I said it on here after the last news of someone being killed by carbon monoxide because of a heater in a bivvy. There was loads of people saying how dangerous and stupid it was.
My comment was despite all the arguments against, despite all the proof of how dangerous it is, despite the death of yet another angler, that if you were to fast forward to the next winter yet again there would be another “What's the best bivvy heater type thread”.
Sometimes being proved right isn't satisfying at all
My comment was despite all the arguments against, despite all the proof of how dangerous it is, despite the death of yet another angler, that if you were to fast forward to the next winter yet again there would be another “What's the best bivvy heater type thread”.
Sometimes being proved right isn't satisfying at all
See my post 5
Fire log on the bbq or Mesa solo stove (thank me later) - sit outside all night in comfort and no risk of death
That aside
thermals - decent bib n brace, good bag - cover if needed, groundsheet, wrap
If your still bothered stay at home
Fire log on the bbq or Mesa solo stove (thank me later) - sit outside all night in comfort and no risk of death
That aside
thermals - decent bib n brace, good bag - cover if needed, groundsheet, wrap
If your still bothered stay at home
Yesterday I made a post on Facebook about the Seven Oaks heater in a Dutch group, one of the answers from a Facebook user:
Also use it in a Fox Xd, it is super safe and great heat. It also measures the CO2 and is secured. Just buy it, you won't regret it. Ps and I put it on with everything sealed, still alive after using it for two years 😁
Would of course never use it without ventilation, and call me a sissy, but I have experienced enough bare winters as an ex-military such as in ex-Yugoslavia.
But as I get older and the medication I inject for my autoimmune disease means that my resistance is much less, in terms of clothing, etc. I have everything I need to get through a bare winter, but I do an average of +10 72 hour sessions in the winter. where I also spend a lot of time in the bivvy.
You can dress as warmly as you want, but it is not comfortable at all, and I am not even talking about the times when you get a rain shower in the winter and you have to change clothes in the cold, I think a bivvy heater is much more pleasant, if that makes you less of a man lol then I think back to my military time and have a good laugh with keyboard heroes
Also use it in a Fox Xd, it is super safe and great heat. It also measures the CO2 and is secured. Just buy it, you won't regret it. Ps and I put it on with everything sealed, still alive after using it for two years 😁
Would of course never use it without ventilation, and call me a sissy, but I have experienced enough bare winters as an ex-military such as in ex-Yugoslavia.
But as I get older and the medication I inject for my autoimmune disease means that my resistance is much less, in terms of clothing, etc. I have everything I need to get through a bare winter, but I do an average of +10 72 hour sessions in the winter. where I also spend a lot of time in the bivvy.
You can dress as warmly as you want, but it is not comfortable at all, and I am not even talking about the times when you get a rain shower in the winter and you have to change clothes in the cold, I think a bivvy heater is much more pleasant, if that makes you less of a man lol then I think back to my military time and have a good laugh with keyboard heroes
In reply to Post #21
Every winter the sad news will be of another death from a bivvy heater in an anglers bivvy,you can see it's going to happen every winter because people think they know better rather than use their common sense.
I had someone actually tell me other week at work that he did it to keep the cold out every winter I went mad I said ‘shouldn't be doing that you will not wake up again'he has kids who live with him and his mom I tried to make him see sense but I think when he's on the lake because it's a clicky place he fishes I think he won't be the only one who's done it and will continue to do it
Every winter the sad news will be of another death from a bivvy heater in an anglers bivvy,you can see it's going to happen every winter because people think they know better rather than use their common sense.
I had someone actually tell me other week at work that he did it to keep the cold out every winter I went mad I said ‘shouldn't be doing that you will not wake up again'he has kids who live with him and his mom I tried to make him see sense but I think when he's on the lake because it's a clicky place he fishes I think he won't be the only one who's done it and will continue to do it
In reply to Post #23
Not quite sure where you are going with this? Is it just a dig at a couple of people who tongue in cheek said man up?
I too am ex forces and have served in severe conditions. I too do week long sessions throughout the year due to the distance my syndicate is to make the fuel costs viable. I'm 67 next week so no spring chicken either, and on a range of heart medication including blood thinners which make you piss like a rodent and feel the cold more.
But I would never use a heater in a bivvy. Even when cooking or making a brew as although the chances of you falling asleep are slim as you are actively doing something, the heat from it is only radial heat and once you turn it off you feel colder.
Again as ex forces my choice of clothing is dictated by what I know works. I have only one item of branded fishing clothing, the rest based on experience. Bottom of the body are merino wool socks, American Matterhorn boots, German army moleskin trousers with a set of Aqua Union Jack Himalayan Salopettes. Upper body Tee shirt, hoody, or Norwegian army shirt, fleece neck snood, Norwegiam army army artic jumper or German army Dachstien mountaineering jumper and snug pack jacket (overhead shirt). If it is really cold and and the windchill harsh I replace the Snugpak with a Halley Hansen down filled full puffer jacket. Goretex jacket then if required. I find with this gear I don't need to bother with thermal under garments which is good because I don't really like them. Most of the time in winter I won't have all of this gear on, maybe just the moleskin trousers and buffalo or just the woolly Pully as outer layers. The full kit list is for really cold windy days when the wind has pushed the chill factor right down.
As you will know - the old army saying - “Any idiot can be uncomfortable”
Not quite sure where you are going with this? Is it just a dig at a couple of people who tongue in cheek said man up?
I too am ex forces and have served in severe conditions. I too do week long sessions throughout the year due to the distance my syndicate is to make the fuel costs viable. I'm 67 next week so no spring chicken either, and on a range of heart medication including blood thinners which make you piss like a rodent and feel the cold more.
But I would never use a heater in a bivvy. Even when cooking or making a brew as although the chances of you falling asleep are slim as you are actively doing something, the heat from it is only radial heat and once you turn it off you feel colder.
Again as ex forces my choice of clothing is dictated by what I know works. I have only one item of branded fishing clothing, the rest based on experience. Bottom of the body are merino wool socks, American Matterhorn boots, German army moleskin trousers with a set of Aqua Union Jack Himalayan Salopettes. Upper body Tee shirt, hoody, or Norwegian army shirt, fleece neck snood, Norwegiam army army artic jumper or German army Dachstien mountaineering jumper and snug pack jacket (overhead shirt). If it is really cold and and the windchill harsh I replace the Snugpak with a Halley Hansen down filled full puffer jacket. Goretex jacket then if required. I find with this gear I don't need to bother with thermal under garments which is good because I don't really like them. Most of the time in winter I won't have all of this gear on, maybe just the moleskin trousers and buffalo or just the woolly Pully as outer layers. The full kit list is for really cold windy days when the wind has pushed the chill factor right down.
As you will know - the old army saying - “Any idiot can be uncomfortable”
Proper clothing and sleeping bag etc etc and I've never once felt the cold even in temperatures down to -6.
Makes you wonder how we ever got where we are today
In reply to Post #27
Yeh, but the bloke in the bottom picture got a 3 month ban when the bailiffs caught him lighting a fire
Yeh, but the bloke in the bottom picture got a 3 month ban when the bailiffs caught him lighting a fire
In reply to Post #28
no hand sanitizer or a Cobb in sight, barbed spears for fishing was all the rage back then how far we've come mind blowing, never mind only about 4 and a half billion years before the sun or our nearest galaxy wipe us out, personally I'm looking forward to it.
no hand sanitizer or a Cobb in sight, barbed spears for fishing was all the rage back then how far we've come mind blowing, never mind only about 4 and a half billion years before the sun or our nearest galaxy wipe us out, personally I'm looking forward to it.
In reply to Post #29
No sanitizer or Cobb, correct, but the life expectancy back then was anywhere between 20 and 35 years of age, so clearly they didn't cope that well.
If people want to use gas heaters on the bank that's fair enough, I'd just repeat what I said and get a carbon monoxide alarm for the bivvy, it might just save your life, but hopefully it won't ever need to.
Personally, I steer clear of them, I am paranoid enough about my gas bottles even being in the bivvy with me at night.
I don't think it needs to turn into a testosterone fuelled thread about being 'manly' enough though.
No sanitizer or Cobb, correct, but the life expectancy back then was anywhere between 20 and 35 years of age, so clearly they didn't cope that well.
If people want to use gas heaters on the bank that's fair enough, I'd just repeat what I said and get a carbon monoxide alarm for the bivvy, it might just save your life, but hopefully it won't ever need to.
Personally, I steer clear of them, I am paranoid enough about my gas bottles even being in the bivvy with me at night.
I don't think it needs to turn into a testosterone fuelled thread about being 'manly' enough though.