I got a Firemaple buzz a few weeks back for £12 offa Amazon. It was boiling water quicker than my brothers t4 this weekend, both were getting low on gas but the firemaple just kept going at full wack despite my brother turning his gas bottle upside down.
In reply to Post #16
It's a good looking burner attachment but that type that fit above the canister will always be unstable and too risky for bivvy cooking.
Bulin t4 for me.
It's a good looking burner attachment but that type that fit above the canister will always be unstable and too risky for bivvy cooking.
Bulin t4 for me.
Am I missing out by using a Colman or Trangia with a little ngt kettle. As opposed to the recommended bulin etc. I have not paid them much attention.
In reply to Post #18
Coleman will make a very quick brew but they will cremate bacon, as well as plenty of running issues.
Trangia, waiting for a brew might be like waiting for a kidney transplant.
Bulin, just works perfectly with no grief. Gas is dearer than petrol but much less to worry about.
Coleman will make a very quick brew but they will cremate bacon, as well as plenty of running issues.
Trangia, waiting for a brew might be like waiting for a kidney transplant.
Bulin, just works perfectly with no grief. Gas is dearer than petrol but much less to worry about.
Love the Bulin T4, so much so that I brought a second one two years back that I've not got out the box yet 
First one is going strong still!
First one is going strong still!
In reply to Post #18
I love using one of my Trangia`s I dont give a flying F*** how long it takes to boil a kettle Im never in a hurry love the silence and simplicity Im very chilled when I go fishing big smile
when I used to go on up to a month fishing trips in europe my Trangia was purely for brews and always left in the open outside it works even better on windy days
and a coleman double burner and griddle plate for cooking food on
I love using one of my Trangia`s I dont give a flying F*** how long it takes to boil a kettle Im never in a hurry love the silence and simplicity Im very chilled when I go fishing big smile
when I used to go on up to a month fishing trips in europe my Trangia was purely for brews and always left in the open outside it works even better on windy days
and a coleman double burner and griddle plate for cooking food on
T4 is a great cheap stove but I tend to use a Jetboil Minimo now as it super compact great for cooking and boiling water
The T4 is highly regarded by a lot of folk and a good price too.
My personal experience, it depends how cold it could be when out fishing. If near freezing or below I'd always use liquid fuel including gas (inverting cannister). I'd never buy a stove I can't service on the bank and if not jic take a back up. I tend to buy proven mountaineering stoves because that's my preference, though they can be at the expensive end though hold value well.
Coleman Sportster had one for years, bit bulky, my 1st stove.
MSR Dragonfly, very powerful & loud, use with a damping cap very quiet and very controllable. liquid fuel only, mines as good as the day it was bought 20 odd years ago.
Present stove, maybe 7 years, Primus Omnilite Ti, most versatile stove I have, runs on liquids and gas. I have a damper fitted to it to.
Optimus Vega, gas only but can invert, good stove for boiling water.
Fire Maple, I wouldn't touch with your barge pole I posted on the forum and YouTube a video of my brand new FM stove leaking liquid gas, absolute death trap 
Maybe I was unlucky, not really the case and one of the reasons I stick to well regarded brands, companies who know there stuff in that field, not angling companies trying to cash in.
Note re liquid gas stoves, I'm told they're easy to regulate but thats not my experience, they tend to be all or nothing, so I only use mine for boiling and not cooking.
Totally agree with Gerry re 0.7ltr HE Kettle. I prefer a separate kettle as opposed to climbing type kettle/pot combos, can't stand tainting my tea...each to their own.
EDIT, to minimise flare ups in cold conditions I prime my Dragonfly/Omnilite with meths, burns with a blue flame, miles better than illuminating the whole area.
My personal experience, it depends how cold it could be when out fishing. If near freezing or below I'd always use liquid fuel including gas (inverting cannister). I'd never buy a stove I can't service on the bank and if not jic take a back up. I tend to buy proven mountaineering stoves because that's my preference, though they can be at the expensive end though hold value well.
Coleman Sportster had one for years, bit bulky, my 1st stove.
MSR Dragonfly, very powerful & loud, use with a damping cap very quiet and very controllable. liquid fuel only, mines as good as the day it was bought 20 odd years ago.
Present stove, maybe 7 years, Primus Omnilite Ti, most versatile stove I have, runs on liquids and gas. I have a damper fitted to it to.
Optimus Vega, gas only but can invert, good stove for boiling water.
Fire Maple, I wouldn't touch with your barge pole
I posted on the forum and YouTube a video of my brand new FM stove leaking liquid gas, absolute death trap Maybe I was unlucky, not really the case and one of the reasons I stick to well regarded brands, companies who know there stuff in that field, not angling companies trying to cash in.Note re liquid gas stoves, I'm told they're easy to regulate but thats not my experience, they tend to be all or nothing, so I only use mine for boiling and not cooking.
Totally agree with Gerry re 0.7ltr HE Kettle. I prefer a separate kettle as opposed to climbing type kettle/pot combos, can't stand tainting my tea...each to their own.
EDIT, to minimise flare ups in cold conditions I prime my Dragonfly/Omnilite with meths, burns with a blue flame, miles better than illuminating the whole area.
In reply to Post #8
Great piece of kit, but please always check the gas connectors on your T4. I've had my gas hose catch flame twice now, because it is not properly connected to the stove. It happened outside thankfully, but its a major safety issue and manufacturing fault imo. Please do some deep searching, because more people seem to have had serious safety issues with their various types of Bulins.
Great piece of kit, but I'll never use it anywhere near my bivvy again.
Great piece of kit, but please always check the gas connectors on your T4. I've had my gas hose catch flame twice now, because it is not properly connected to the stove. It happened outside thankfully, but its a major safety issue and manufacturing fault imo. Please do some deep searching, because more people seem to have had serious safety issues with their various types of Bulins.
Great piece of kit, but I'll never use it anywhere near my bivvy again.
In reply to Post #22
I have that one, very good but pricey
I have that one, very good but pricey
I've got a Bulin T4 and a Trangia but finding I tend to use the Trangia more often than not. Yes it is slower to boil the kettle but I've never been in a situation where the extra couple of minutes has made a difference plus it's not affected by the weather. Spent too much time pissing about with gas canisters trying to get them warmed up or tipping upside down etc to get a decent flame, the Trangia you just fill and away you go. It's also a lot quieter.
If it's for hot drinks only and not cooking then there is no better system than the jetboil minimo - it's just an unbelievable stove. I have loads of stoves that I used to chop and change, but unless I am cooking which I don't often do this is the quickest most fuel efficient stove I've used.
In reply to Post #1
I had a T4 and it packed up pretty quick. Tried to take it apart and clean out but nackered. Would not buy another.
Bit bullet and bought a gardner stove and its been good so far. Use with the smallest Ridgemonkey kettle to save weight and size.
I had a T4 and it packed up pretty quick. Tried to take it apart and clean out but nackered. Would not buy another.
Bit bullet and bought a gardner stove and its been good so far. Use with the smallest Ridgemonkey kettle to save weight and size.
In reply to Post #28
The Gardner stove is made by bulin too
The Gardner stove is made by bulin too
I bought one of these a few months back and rate it, if you are looking for a tiny, lightweight kettle this titanium one is what you need
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