I've used 17lb X Line without any issues, tough as old boots and casts ok as well for Fluoro
In reply to Post #16
Is XLine a pure fluro or simply a coated one? Thought the original release was a coated mono - has this changed?
I'm using a boat so not being able to cast is not the end of the world - also like the low stretch of fluros especially when boating out at range as this is a massive advantage over mono
Is XLine a pure fluro or simply a coated one? Thought the original release was a coated mono - has this changed?
I'm using a boat so not being able to cast is not the end of the world - also like the low stretch of fluros especially when boating out at range as this is a massive advantage over mono
In reply to Post #17
Ive used sinking mono and flourocarbon, and feel the cons, far outweigh the pros.
Normal mono will sink, and aslong as youre not fishing bow tight lines, and let the line sttle before setting your indicators etc, you can get a decent amount on the deck. Any more than about 2-3 meters from the rig end is unnecessary in my opinion.
And the more line in the bottom of the lae, the more bite indication is effected. Youre better off spending a bit of time after casting, letting the line settle, than worrying about changing the mailine. I use a 750mm - 1 metre long unleaded leader and syncro xt, and have no worries at all about the rig end being suspended. Light hangers and slightly slack lines for short to medium range and no issues with the line being pulled up that end either.
Ive used sinking mono and flourocarbon, and feel the cons, far outweigh the pros.
Normal mono will sink, and aslong as youre not fishing bow tight lines, and let the line sttle before setting your indicators etc, you can get a decent amount on the deck. Any more than about 2-3 meters from the rig end is unnecessary in my opinion.
And the more line in the bottom of the lae, the more bite indication is effected. Youre better off spending a bit of time after casting, letting the line settle, than worrying about changing the mailine. I use a 750mm - 1 metre long unleaded leader and syncro xt, and have no worries at all about the rig end being suspended. Light hangers and slightly slack lines for short to medium range and no issues with the line being pulled up that end either.
In reply to Post #9
Ultima did Ultima Carp line that was a flouro coated mono that had its devotee's, myself included.
It was a bit springy when new but was OK when used for a while became manageable and it sank well. It biggest plus was its invisabity. When I saw it side by side with a bog standard mono the difference was amazing.
They stopped making it for the carp market but if you look around they still do a sea fishing line and the blurb on the packaging is exactly the same - flouro coated mono. It is more difficult finding it in the lower breaking strains but a spin off is that it is cheaper as the word carp is not used so avoids carp tax
Ultima did Ultima Carp line that was a flouro coated mono that had its devotee's, myself included.
It was a bit springy when new but was OK when used for a while became manageable and it sank well. It biggest plus was its invisabity. When I saw it side by side with a bog standard mono the difference was amazing.
They stopped making it for the carp market but if you look around they still do a sea fishing line and the blurb on the packaging is exactly the same - flouro coated mono. It is more difficult finding it in the lower breaking strains but a spin off is that it is cheaper as the word carp is not used so avoids carp tax
X-Line is a flourocarbon line, not coated mono. Always has been as far as I'm aware. Can't see the point in a coated mono, worst of both worlds.
The benefits of flouro over mono for me are the decreased stretch, abrasion resistance and the way it sinks, in that order. If you use a proper flouro like X-line or Tiger and give it time to bed in then it's not a problem to use. I think a lot of people put it on, panic that it's a bit more unruly than mono off the spool and strip it off before it beds in.
I'll use braid with a flouro leader 100% of the time if the rules allow. If they don't then Xline straight through is the next best thing. Going back to mono feels stodgy and dull with all the stretch. Mono is for nods
The benefits of flouro over mono for me are the decreased stretch, abrasion resistance and the way it sinks, in that order. If you use a proper flouro like X-line or Tiger and give it time to bed in then it's not a problem to use. I think a lot of people put it on, panic that it's a bit more unruly than mono off the spool and strip it off before it beds in.
I'll use braid with a flouro leader 100% of the time if the rules allow. If they don't then Xline straight through is the next best thing. Going back to mono feels stodgy and dull with all the stretch. Mono is for nods
In reply to Post #20
i am also a fan of x-line 20lbs. takes a few trips to settle down but once it has it is great.
i am also a fan of x-line 20lbs. takes a few trips to settle down but once it has it is great.
In reply to Post #19
Any name for this sea line?
Any name for this sea line?
In reply to Post #19
Is it the ultima power steel, flouro coated
Is it the ultima power steel, flouro coated
In reply to Post #1
Another one for x line, very happy and confident with it at 17 or 20 breaking strain
Another one for x line, very happy and confident with it at 17 or 20 breaking strain
In reply to Post #20
I like it for the same reasons but would return to Synchro XT if I had to cast consistently; I believe my results have picked up since using fluro mainline this season; primarily ease of getting the line sunk over multiple undulations but also takes at range and being able to connect / control quicker with the lack of stretch . . .
I like it for the same reasons but would return to Synchro XT if I had to cast consistently; I believe my results have picked up since using fluro mainline this season; primarily ease of getting the line sunk over multiple undulations but also takes at range and being able to connect / control quicker with the lack of stretch . . .
In reply to Post #20
I agree Tiger line just needs a good stretch and a little time to bed in and its head and shoulders over others IMHO had lots of big fish in snaggy swims with never a worry its just the perfect line
I agree Tiger line just needs a good stretch and a little time to bed in and its head and shoulders over others IMHO had lots of big fish in snaggy swims with never a worry its just the perfect line
In reply to Post #26
At £76 for 600 metres it should be, before Gardner got hold of it a 1000 metre spool was cheaper than that. I really liked the Diawa Super Soft fluro, sadly they don't make that anymore.
At £76 for 600 metres it should be, before Gardner got hold of it a 1000 metre spool was cheaper than that. I really liked the Diawa Super Soft fluro, sadly they don't make that anymore.
In reply to Post #27
Moved from X line to tiger line around 4/5 years ago and never looked at anything else since - it does everything I want from a fluro and is as tough as old boots, that and technium black mono all bases covered
Moved from X line to tiger line around 4/5 years ago and never looked at anything else since - it does everything I want from a fluro and is as tough as old boots, that and technium black mono all bases covered
In reply to Post #23
That's the Jasper 👍
Exactly the same and cheaper too as it's aimed at the shore fishing community.
As it was for the carp market
My normal setup seems to be a lot lighter than what is the norm now with 12lb line and size 8 hooks, whereas 18lb+ and size 6 seems to be the norm 🫤. Finding it 12lb is challenging. 15lb is not so bad but still uncommon, 18lb plus is easier.
It's the same stuff 👍
I got this for a France trip where the lake had minimum 15lb rule. From the note stuffed in the spool wrapper I know it is the sea version as I never bought 15lb in the carp version.
I accept this is not true flouro, and some may not be keen, but it sinks well, behaves once settled down, but having used it and seen its invisibility, I can put up with any of its shortcomings. 👍
That's the Jasper 👍
Exactly the same and cheaper too as it's aimed at the shore fishing community.
As it was for the carp market
My normal setup seems to be a lot lighter than what is the norm now with 12lb line and size 8 hooks, whereas 18lb+ and size 6 seems to be the norm 🫤. Finding it 12lb is challenging. 15lb is not so bad but still uncommon, 18lb plus is easier.
It's the same stuff 👍
I got this for a France trip where the lake had minimum 15lb rule. From the note stuffed in the spool wrapper I know it is the sea version as I never bought 15lb in the carp version.
I accept this is not true flouro, and some may not be keen, but it sinks well, behaves once settled down, but having used it and seen its invisibility, I can put up with any of its shortcomings. 👍
In reply to Post #1
can't fault 17lb X line tbh. yes it can be a bit frappy at times, but similarly i have also hit casts up to 125 yards with it no problem at all (probably get more if it wasn't for the fact i was using soft rods..)
sinks well, strong as anything and can sling a lead. does it all!
can't fault 17lb X line tbh. yes it can be a bit frappy at times, but similarly i have also hit casts up to 125 yards with it no problem at all (probably get more if it wasn't for the fact i was using soft rods..)
sinks well, strong as anything and can sling a lead. does it all!