In reply to Post #15
Stick ya chap in it and it's easy lol
Stick ya chap in it and it's easy lol
In reply to Post #16
Wouldn't get much line around that
Wouldn't get much line around that
In reply to Post #13
Me neither, seem to be very effective. For me it just the so called absolute precision aspect that's implied in a lot of videos. I was thinking of using my storm poles, I guess you just turn the thumb screws or lever lock inwards, though I do like those grooves to catch the line.
I must seem like such a dinosaur...guess I am
I've been out in the lake finding spots, and I'm not convinced that you need pinpoint accuracy with the size of some of the feeding holes that the carp have been in. A rod length across and front to back of soft silt where they have ripped the bottom up.
Accuracy to mind the weed maybe, but not to get where they feed.
You could quite easily get a take anywhere within a 3metre circle, so 32-35metres is good enough.
Like you, I do use my storm poles, with the lever lock on the inside of the turn, and one doubles up as my photo pole with camera adaptor already screwed in.
Even on Nazeing, Brackens, you'd know if you missed the gravel, a 10feet or more drop compared to a 6foot drop, and I tended to not clip up but aim to be by the marker float.
Me neither, seem to be very effective. For me it just the so called absolute precision aspect that's implied in a lot of videos. I was thinking of using my storm poles, I guess you just turn the thumb screws or lever lock inwards, though I do like those grooves to catch the line.
I must seem like such a dinosaur...guess I am
I've been out in the lake finding spots, and I'm not convinced that you need pinpoint accuracy with the size of some of the feeding holes that the carp have been in. A rod length across and front to back of soft silt where they have ripped the bottom up.
Accuracy to mind the weed maybe, but not to get where they feed.
You could quite easily get a take anywhere within a 3metre circle, so 32-35metres is good enough.
Like you, I do use my storm poles, with the lever lock on the inside of the turn, and one doubles up as my photo pole with camera adaptor already screwed in.
Even on Nazeing, Brackens, you'd know if you missed the gravel, a 10feet or more drop compared to a 6foot drop, and I tended to not clip up but aim to be by the marker float.
Doesn't matter what you use, wrapping up to accurately to put a rig on a spot will get you more bites.
Anyone can cast and hit a gravel bar for example if they know the approximate distance, the guy clipping up to the back or the front of the bar on the edge of softer stuff will catch either more, or the better fish in my opinion.
So whether it's a bank stick, wrapping stick, storm pole, cane, a walking crutch. Who cares, but being accurate will serve you better than is what ultimately is a educated pub chuck.
There are exceptions, choddies and solid bags cast at showing fish of course but I think accuracy is a big string to a carp anglers bow.
Anyone can cast and hit a gravel bar for example if they know the approximate distance, the guy clipping up to the back or the front of the bar on the edge of softer stuff will catch either more, or the better fish in my opinion.
So whether it's a bank stick, wrapping stick, storm pole, cane, a walking crutch. Who cares, but being accurate will serve you better than is what ultimately is a educated pub chuck.
There are exceptions, choddies and solid bags cast at showing fish of course but I think accuracy is a big string to a carp anglers bow.
There is absolutely no doubt wrapping sticks and recasting accurately will lead to more bites year on year.
In reply to Post #19
I'm not arguing accuracy, however you get it; marker float on a feature, creeping casts into the island or far bank margin, walking lines out or using sticks.
My argument is solely this supposed distance that is a wrap. It is a wrap that is a totally irrelevant measurement that does not exist.
The person who sets his sticks at 10feet for his 10feet rods is going to get a different number of wraps to the angler who uses 12feet rods, or the person who bought strung sticks, or the 13feet rod angler.
Recognised distances are metres, or yards, both of which are established measurements.
The yard being one left right (double) pace of a Roman March, 1000 being a mile.
The metre is a particular fraction of a line of longitude from the North Pole in a great circle, and the original metre is kept in Paris after the metric system was invented in 1791.
I'm not arguing accuracy, however you get it; marker float on a feature, creeping casts into the island or far bank margin, walking lines out or using sticks.
My argument is solely this supposed distance that is a wrap. It is a wrap that is a totally irrelevant measurement that does not exist.
The person who sets his sticks at 10feet for his 10feet rods is going to get a different number of wraps to the angler who uses 12feet rods, or the person who bought strung sticks, or the 13feet rod angler.
Recognised distances are metres, or yards, both of which are established measurements.
The yard being one left right (double) pace of a Roman March, 1000 being a mile.
The metre is a particular fraction of a line of longitude from the North Pole in a great circle, and the original metre is kept in Paris after the metric system was invented in 1791.
In reply to Post #21
I don't know how many people seen the video which showed DaVe Lane cast a distance using braid and he measured it by wraps then casted the same amount of wraps with mono, the lead sailed way past the marker he put up with the braid, I must admit that when I lead around I use my spod rod loaded with braid and I then realised my fishing rod was going nowhere near the spot, yes I always pull back when the lead hits the water but if the spot is shallow you just can't pull back, now if I find the water is shallow I set my fishing rod 1 1/2 wraps shorter but I still wonder if my rig is hitting the spot
I don't know how many people seen the video which showed DaVe Lane cast a distance using braid and he measured it by wraps then casted the same amount of wraps with mono, the lead sailed way past the marker he put up with the braid, I must admit that when I lead around I use my spod rod loaded with braid and I then realised my fishing rod was going nowhere near the spot, yes I always pull back when the lead hits the water but if the spot is shallow you just can't pull back, now if I find the water is shallow I set my fishing rod 1 1/2 wraps shorter but I still wonder if my rig is hitting the spot
In reply to Post #21
A wrap is what is relevant to the set up you use or whatever room you actually have for sticks.
Ive used sticks set around 6ft apart in a peg that was very tight, doesn't matter how far it is in literal terms.
As for the braid to mono comparison Dave Lane did, are we referring to popping up the marker float? If so then in say 16ft of water, you probably would hit the clip 5ft past the float and it would pendulum back, maybe I need to watch the clip.
A wrap is what is relevant to the set up you use or whatever room you actually have for sticks.
Ive used sticks set around 6ft apart in a peg that was very tight, doesn't matter how far it is in literal terms.
As for the braid to mono comparison Dave Lane did, are we referring to popping up the marker float? If so then in say 16ft of water, you probably would hit the clip 5ft past the float and it would pendulum back, maybe I need to watch the clip.
In reply to Post #21
But the measurement does exist Nick. Doesn't matter if you or I don't use it, it is definitely part of the modern day carp language.
But the measurement does exist Nick. Doesn't matter if you or I don't use it, it is definitely part of the modern day carp language.
In reply to Post #22
Luckily where i fish at mo i can use braid on baited rods as well as marker rod. Yes there is defo line stretch with mono so the feet in between each wrap will indeed be slightly different.
Luckily where i fish at mo i can use braid on baited rods as well as marker rod. Yes there is defo line stretch with mono so the feet in between each wrap will indeed be slightly different.
When our lass phoned us to see what I wanted for my dinner from Subway, I told her to bring me a "Chicken Wrap".
When she got it home I could see the person who sold her it was a carp angler, it was nine foot long, good job he didn't use 12' rods, I would never managed to eat it all.
When she got it home I could see the person who sold her it was a carp angler, it was nine foot long, good job he didn't use 12' rods, I would never managed to eat it all.
Most wrap sticks come with a 12ft (4yard) cord.🤷🏻♂️
In reply to Post #27
Out of curiosity does no one use marker elastic etc any more.
The lakes i currently fish are relativity small, so I generally use marker elastic, i do note the wraps / distance down in case i need to check.
I understand o n a big chuck, this may cause more friction and affect the casting distance, but on smaller lakes clipping up to marker elastic is my preferred choice.
Out of curiosity does no one use marker elastic etc any more.
The lakes i currently fish are relativity small, so I generally use marker elastic, i do note the wraps / distance down in case i need to check.
I understand o n a big chuck, this may cause more friction and affect the casting distance, but on smaller lakes clipping up to marker elastic is my preferred choice.
In reply to Post #27
4 yard cord?
Or 3.66metres?
Whoever mentioned about braid vs mono on the sticks coming out at different casting distances is interesting, although I might without even thinking cover the issue. I tend to add an extra circuit on my sticks with the braid on the spod rod, so the drift back baits up over my rods.
@Essexandy, I am now trying not to use the word... 
4 yard cord?
Or 3.66metres?
Whoever mentioned about braid vs mono on the sticks coming out at different casting distances is interesting, although I might without even thinking cover the issue. I tend to add an extra circuit on my sticks with the braid on the spod rod, so the drift back baits up over my rods.
@Essexandy, I am now trying not to use the word...
Yes 4 yards 👍🏻