I'd rather return a fish without taking a picture than sack it as I rarely take pictures anyway and have never shared a fish picture on social media. While I do like to look at some pictures like the ones in a certain bait thread here and those Freund's share with me the majority posted on social media are nothing special.
Catch it, leave it in the net for 5 minutes to recover and use this time to get your camera or phone set up, take a practice selfie over the mat, when ready go and get the fish for a couple of quick snaps using a self take app (or say cheese) and the return to the water in the weigh sling.
A few more minutes to recover again, then release.
A few more minutes to recover again, then release.
In reply to Post #17
Perfect.
Perfect.
In reply to Post #11
In all the years people have been fishing who has ever seen first hand someone or yourself retaining a fish and it being dead in the morning when going to photograph it?
Well, you've been lucky, but to imply it's unheard of is ridiculous....so READ ON for the very WORST example of it.
I Arrived at Joncherry (France), been there twice before, a lovely couple and there young child lived in the on site house and ran the place for the owners (on our 1st 2 trips). We turn up for the 3rd trip and the lake owners son is now in charge, (was it Stefan Bachilier, blonde guy quite young, very well turned out, those who fished early 0's, The Mauripaire Lakes etc, Dave Paynes drive and survive will know). Anyway we get read the riot act (you English, that sort of thing), checking nets, slings, unhooking mats, basically he went through the lot. At the end he still wasn't happy and I gave it him both barrels (not swearing), who the hell did he think he was talking to me like that...my friend wasn't happy with me afterwards, said I could have ruined it for both of us (fair enough, but I won't be talked to like that because of someone elses actions), to be fair he was o.k.
Anyway, we set up, all calmed down and he came to talk to us and explain his actions which I thought was very good of him. The week before a group of English lads had been fishing the lake, they went into town for the beer and ladies and when they came back they started fishing again. They caught and sacked before turning in. In the morning the bailiff did the rounds to sacks of dead fish up to and over 40lb. IIRC it wasn't even late when he went round but it was in the middle of a 40degc spell so it didn't need to be.
It was almost a case of no more English when we arrived, I felt really very sorry for the owner.
In all the years people have been fishing who has ever seen first hand someone or yourself retaining a fish and it being dead in the morning when going to photograph it?
Well, you've been lucky, but to imply it's unheard of is ridiculous....so READ ON for the very WORST example of it.
I Arrived at Joncherry (France), been there twice before, a lovely couple and there young child lived in the on site house and ran the place for the owners (on our 1st 2 trips). We turn up for the 3rd trip and the lake owners son is now in charge, (was it Stefan Bachilier, blonde guy quite young, very well turned out, those who fished early 0's, The Mauripaire Lakes etc, Dave Paynes drive and survive will know). Anyway we get read the riot act (you English, that sort of thing), checking nets, slings, unhooking mats, basically he went through the lot. At the end he still wasn't happy and I gave it him both barrels (not swearing), who the hell did he think he was talking to me like that...my friend wasn't happy with me afterwards, said I could have ruined it for both of us (fair enough, but I won't be talked to like that because of someone elses actions), to be fair he was o.k.
Anyway, we set up, all calmed down and he came to talk to us and explain his actions which I thought was very good of him. The week before a group of English lads had been fishing the lake, they went into town for the beer and ladies and when they came back they started fishing again. They caught and sacked before turning in. In the morning the bailiff did the rounds to sacks of dead fish up to and over 40lb. IIRC it wasn't even late when he went round but it was in the middle of a 40degc spell so it didn't need to be.
It was almost a case of no more English when we arrived, I felt really very sorry for the owner.
So they sacked the fish and slept in well it's that hot! not the same as sacking a fish an having some shots in the morning just after sun rise before it's stupidly hot. That's not the sacking of the fish that stupid pissed up anglers being irresponsible.
In reply to Post #20
So they sacked the fish and slept in well it's that hot! not the same as sacking a fish an having some shots in the morning just after sun rise before it's stupidly hot.
Who said it was
though that is the topic.
It was written, and I quoted, but you missed it...so here it is again
In all the years people have been fishing who has ever seen first hand someone or yourself retaining a fish and it being dead in the morning when going to photograph it?
That statement is a generalisation, not specific to the topic*
EDIT * as time retained not stated
So they sacked the fish and slept in well it's that hot! not the same as sacking a fish an having some shots in the morning just after sun rise before it's stupidly hot.
Who said it was
though that is the topic. It was written, and I quoted, but you missed it...so here it is again
In all the years people have been fishing who has ever seen first hand someone or yourself retaining a fish and it being dead in the morning when going to photograph it?
That statement is a generalisation, not specific to the topic*
EDIT * as time retained not stated
Your one example isn't a simple case of someone sacking a carp for few hours it's pissed up knob heads sleeping in all morning in silly heat. 👍🏻
If you're responsible, sack fish. I've done it less than 4 times in the decades I've been carping. Only reason was wanting better shots of nice fish, including my pb. I get paranoid and check them hourly, never once have I had a distressed carp. If anything they are always very chilled out by the looks of it. I‘lol retain fish in a floating sling whilst setting up the camera 95% of the time. If it's really hot in the middle of the day though, I'd sack them as the upper layers will be warmer.
Basically just be responsible. If your question whether it'd be okay then I'd say dont do it unless you're sure. Night shots are easy enough to do relatively well.
I've heard of more carp dying or being in distress from prolonged times in retention slings than sacks (maybe because they are more popular).
Be responsible just like anything in life.
Basically just be responsible. If your question whether it'd be okay then I'd say dont do it unless you're sure. Night shots are easy enough to do relatively well.
I've heard of more carp dying or being in distress from prolonged times in retention slings than sacks (maybe because they are more popular).
Be responsible just like anything in life.
In reply to Post #22
Your one example isn't a simple case of someone sacking a carp for few hours
I thought that I made it clear it was a off topic responce to a generalised comment
You've taken the inference they were in bed for quite some time. How do you or I know it wasn't more than just a few hours. I can't see them coming back from town early, I can't see them catching fish that quickly and the bailiff made his rounds early in the morning, around 8am iirc, so potentially the Carp were only sacked for a few hours, point is it's summer, it's hot and the water is deoxygenated in the upper layers, hence in my earlier response to the OP where I said I could understand him wanting to sack in deeper water.
You make it sound like a few hours is acceptable in summer, that's all it takes unless in deeper water and even then it's questionable, we'll have to agree to disagree
Your one example isn't a simple case of someone sacking a carp for few hours
I thought that I made it clear it was a off topic responce to a generalised comment
You've taken the inference they were in bed for quite some time. How do you or I know it wasn't more than just a few hours. I can't see them coming back from town early, I can't see them catching fish that quickly and the bailiff made his rounds early in the morning, around 8am iirc, so potentially the Carp were only sacked for a few hours, point is it's summer, it's hot and the water is deoxygenated in the upper layers, hence in my earlier response to the OP where I said I could understand him wanting to sack in deeper water.
You make it sound like a few hours is acceptable in summer, that's all it takes unless in deeper water and even then it's questionable, we'll have to agree to disagree