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Bite Indication (28 posts / 3,935 views)
noj
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Social photographer... Post #16 8 Aug 2022 17:37
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Carew Carew
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Post #17 8 Aug 2022 21:26
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I get concerned about it too. I think that if I hit the clip then the lead will continue to fly toward the hook link thereby retrieving the line dragged through by air resistance on the mesh bag. I don't know if I'm right though . If I feel the lead hitting the lake bed I assume it's ok?
Baza1075
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Post #18 8 Aug 2022 23:31
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I use a lead clip with the clip cut off, a tail rubber and tubing with a run ring which nips tight enough on the tail rubber to hold on the cast but comes loose on a shake. It doesn't drop the lead though. I haven't if memory serves me right Had an issue with kiting but have had one or two drop backs which shouldn't occur if everything works correctly.
AideyKaye
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Post #19 9 Aug 2022 03:49
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I've been getting that too. In addition to this, the hookholds have been really poor, but I put that down to having too many boilies in too tight an area. Size 4 hooks should not just fall out.

I think kiting depends entirely on rig placement. If you're fishing parallel to an island and the fish has to kite right to gain safety of a snag 20 yards away, that's exactly what it will do. I was getting screaming takes on one rod which was further away, yet kiting takes on the rod closer to the island.
MARKerz
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Post #20 9 Aug 2022 08:11
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Try using size 6's rather than 4's.
MARKerz
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Post #21 9 Aug 2022 08:28
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Try a running rig on one rod to see how it performs.
Add more weight to your bobbins, you need indication as soon as possible.
Try a lighter semi-fixed lead.
It's just trial & error until you get the right mix.
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #22 9 Aug 2022 09:33
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I stopped using Lead Clips the last century for exactly the same problem you have been having, it happens an awful lot – I have zero faith in them.

if you do a lot of predator fishing as well (As I always have) always using running rigs - it soon becomes apparent that your missing nothing on run rigs, with every bit of Indication a forward movement.

I use the same identical Running Rig set up for Carp, Pike, Cats, Barbel and Chub fishing, only change I make is if fishing in deep silt, over weed or over a rockery (River Bed) The Lead goes on a 6” long stiff running Boom to combat the situations.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #23 9 Aug 2022 10:05
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I found years ago that leadclips, even semi-fixed setups can produce exactly the problem you describe. I try to stick to running leads on run rings to reduce the problem.
Craftycarper97
Posts: 119
Post #24 9 Aug 2022 19:33
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Have a look at Matthew Collins from Beausoliel. He has a running shock rig and I use it in all my fishing now.

If a fishery owner, in France is advocating a rig, then there should be some confidence in it.

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bowlsky bowlsky
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Post #25 9 Aug 2022 21:20
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I used to have this happen to me. Iv found using heavy bobbins for everything but edge fishing is a huge advantage . I haven't had it happen since
Vanhorne
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Post #26 9 Aug 2022 21:21
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What do you suppose the heavy bobbins do to mitigate the issue?
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #27 14 Aug 2022 09:48
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Transfer of movement – less “Slack” there is in the line between your Alarm and your Lead/Rig the better, Heavy Bobbin & Gravity or Tensioned via a Tension Arm type Indicator or as I use a Heavy Bobbin that's mounted so it's also weightless to move as such.
Panander Panander
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Post #28 14 Aug 2022 18:43
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Running rigs can also cause lack of indication on smooth bottoms where the lead can slide and acts like a tensioner. This can occur if the fish is running to either side and towards you a little bit. A heavy lead negates the issue but it can and does happen.
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