In reply to Post #15
Yes, reason I ask is nearly everybody is spodding hemp, pellet, and various other, (myself incuded). Is it really possible to create an intense feeding situation/keep them grubbing about, with just a boilie only approach. We all used to fish that way though.
Yes, reason I ask is nearly everybody is spodding hemp, pellet, and various other, (myself incuded). Is it really possible to create an intense feeding situation/keep them grubbing about, with just a boilie only approach. We all used to fish that way though.
Maybe I should ask, can 'scatter baiting' with boilies really compete with a baiting situation created with a spod and bits n bobs?
In reply to Post #17
Hi,
I guess it depends on the water. I nearly always use a boilie only approach 20mm preferred and it has served me well on several waters.
I am trying for bigguns rather than numbers of fish.
I heard an analogy a while back that matched my results.
Old fish (bit like old people potentially have a reduced appetite and pick at their food, can be grumpy
) and pobably dont want to get into a scrum of smaller fish feeding on a tight spot.
I either use a spread of boilies (1kg per day) regularly a few days in advance of fishing if possible if I have evidence they are there or to draw fish into an area.
or just fish a dozen or so boilies around the hookbait or leading to the hookbait (along a bar or example). It makes for a very quiet approach which is what I'm after when everyone else is a bit spodtastic
Cheers
Neil.
Hi,
I guess it depends on the water. I nearly always use a boilie only approach 20mm preferred and it has served me well on several waters.
I am trying for bigguns rather than numbers of fish.
I heard an analogy a while back that matched my results.
Old fish (bit like old people potentially have a reduced appetite and pick at their food, can be grumpy
) and pobably dont want to get into a scrum of smaller fish feeding on a tight spot.I either use a spread of boilies (1kg per day) regularly a few days in advance of fishing if possible if I have evidence they are there or to draw fish into an area.
or just fish a dozen or so boilies around the hookbait or leading to the hookbait (along a bar or example). It makes for a very quiet approach which is what I'm after when everyone else is a bit spodtastic
Cheers
Neil.
In reply to Post #17
Definitely, fish moving from one bait to the next I feel are more likely to hook themselves than if the are sucking and blowing from a pile of feed.
Definitely, fish moving from one bait to the next I feel are more likely to hook themselves than if the are sucking and blowing from a pile of feed.
In reply to Post #18
You touched on baiting lines, brilliant way of fishing
Even on hard waters if I can get away with it I'll put out 2 boillies every 15 minutes maybe, with the stick it don't make a noise
Should just say the boilies are skimmed over the water
You touched on baiting lines, brilliant way of fishing
Even on hard waters if I can get away with it I'll put out 2 boillies every 15 minutes maybe, with the stick it don't make a noise
Should just say the boilies are skimmed over the water
In reply to Post #16
This is definitely possible. Scattering bait keeps them moving.
1 or 1/2 kg of large bait sticked out is just a good starting point.
As mentioned by others, carp picking up one bait to the other are more likely to get hooked.
This is definitely possible. Scattering bait keeps them moving.
1 or 1/2 kg of large bait sticked out is just a good starting point.
As mentioned by others, carp picking up one bait to the other are more likely to get hooked.
Many years ago i was fishing a private syndi and doing well on 16mm baits but due to smaller carp, silvers and eels I decided to change my approach to pre baiting with only 20mm hard boilies and fishing the same when I returned.
The bigger carp were definitely ready for it and the smallest carp I caught was a low double.
No wafters, no pop ups, no toppers, just fish eating the feed and wanting more.
The bigger carp were definitely ready for it and the smallest carp I caught was a low double.
No wafters, no pop ups, no toppers, just fish eating the feed and wanting more.
In reply to Post #22
Nice , I like to think half the work is done before I get my gear out
Nice , I like to think half the work is done before I get my gear out
In reply to Post #1
When I first started fishing Brackens on Nazeing Meads I baited up with 30 bait stringers of 18mm boilies. Half an hour of casting stringers in and fishing over the top of them.
It was a very successful tactic as because of the 'no baits to be thrown, catapulted, spodded or sticked in' rule it was definitely a very good edge.
When I first started fishing Brackens on Nazeing Meads I baited up with 30 bait stringers of 18mm boilies. Half an hour of casting stringers in and fishing over the top of them.
It was a very successful tactic as because of the 'no baits to be thrown, catapulted, spodded or sticked in' rule it was definitely a very good edge.
I had a fish Saturday night on a 24mm hookbait over a scattering of the same. I pretty much always use a boilie only approach.
In reply to Post #25
A few years back I had a free night so went on a club water. It has a good stock so can be a bit of a runs water but they can be riggy. I needed a good sleep so my plan was to have a wide scatter of 20mm baits with two rods in the tennis court sized area, and 24mm bottom baits on the rigs with 3 bait stringers of 24mm boilies
I ended up with 10 fish, smallest was low double and the best was almost 20, but a better amount of 15+ than normal.
Too many people fishing baits that are too small.
A few years back I had a free night so went on a club water. It has a good stock so can be a bit of a runs water but they can be riggy. I needed a good sleep so my plan was to have a wide scatter of 20mm baits with two rods in the tennis court sized area, and 24mm bottom baits on the rigs with 3 bait stringers of 24mm boilies
I ended up with 10 fish, smallest was low double and the best was almost 20, but a better amount of 15+ than normal.
Too many people fishing baits that are too small.
In reply to Post #1
Depends on the water, but if there are a lot of silver fish around then a 20mm bait helps pick out the carp.
Depends on the water, but if there are a lot of silver fish around then a 20mm bait helps pick out the carp.
Is an 18 or 20 a big bait? I just think nowadays people tend to fish more with 12mm pop ups on a Ronnie. Back when I was younger I fished a lake with a lot of bream and small carp so I ended up using 26 millers. That's a big bait 
If I can I will always go down the 24mm route quite often with double 24mm bottom baits on the hair. It's done me proud on quite a few busy waters. I joined a water a few years ago where everything was small 12mm baits, I was rubbing my hands together thinking the bigger baits would sort them out. It resulted in months of blanking until I fished smaller baits. But that has been the only exception in recent years
In reply to Post #29
Yes when everyone goes to smaller and smaller baits in order to get a bite it's the law of diminishing returns . where do you end up fishing hemp on the hair? Overfishing is what causes this. No close season does not help. Pressured fish end up changing their natural habits so they just don't respond to their environment in a natural way.
Yes when everyone goes to smaller and smaller baits in order to get a bite it's the law of diminishing returns . where do you end up fishing hemp on the hair? Overfishing is what causes this. No close season does not help. Pressured fish end up changing their natural habits so they just don't respond to their environment in a natural way.