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Tackle manufacturers need to do more! (28 posts / 2,615 views)
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #16 7 May 2022 08:00
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Considering a dogs microchip is about the same size as a grain of rice, it would not be hard to give the rods a recorded serial number with the RFID in a chip or tag.

That means rods and reels can be easily chipped for later recovery.

The problem with fishing tackle theft is it is not likely for the stolen tackle to stay in the same area and there is too big a second hand market for it to be shifted on to.
bluebeat13
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Post #17 7 May 2022 09:17
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In reply to Post #16
Smart Water is a cheaper and simpler solution than an RFID chip. If applying Smart Water to equipment was widely taken up by anglers, and if buyers on the 2nd hand market routinely checked their purchases it would go a long way to help restrict the sale of stolen kit.

Tracking is a non starter with current technology due to the expense.
Goose Goose
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Post #18 7 May 2022 09:37
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In reply to Post #17
Trakker I have are tiny but need a power supply to operate. Dog thefts have risen dramatically dispite micro chipping.
Andydave
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Post #19 7 May 2022 09:47
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In reply to Post #16
What are the chances of a buyer checking to see if a set of rods are stolen after exchanging 500 quid for them??
bluebeat13
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Post #20 7 May 2022 10:45
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In reply to Post #19
Why would a buyer not want to know that the rods they are buying are stolen?
Andydave
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Post #21 7 May 2022 11:03
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What are the chances of someone having an RFID reader? Or UV light for smart water?? I know I haven't, and probably a large percentage of the population. Coupled with the fact it would have to be cross referenced with a data base somewhere, it's alot of faff, which I would suspect most wont be bothered to do.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #22 7 May 2022 11:47
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In reply to Post #21
In reply to Post #20
What are the chances of someone having an RFID reader? Or UV light for smart water?? I know I haven't, and probably a large percentage of the population. Coupled with the fact it would have to be cross referenced with a data base somewhere, it's alot of faff, which I would suspect most wont be bothered to do.



The chances of someone having a RFID reader are actually quite high, it's available as an app on a number of Smartphones with Android.

As for Smart water, I know that 95% of UK police forces actively search in the cases of theft, and it has lead to an 84% reduction of burglaries in some areas.
It does mean that any sale or transfer does have to have a receipt, but thefts can be traced back years.
Nigel18
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Post #23 7 May 2022 14:15
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In reply to Post #19
If i paid £500 for a set of rods and they was found to be stolen later on I would have lost my £500 plus the chance of getting prosecuted for receiving stolen goods?

Now my thinking is if its harder for tackle to be sold there will be less chances of a thief stealing in the first place.

For example if i seen a set of Daiwa rods on ebay I could ask for a photo of the serial numbers of each rod.
I can then go on to the Daiwa website input the serial numbers and check to see if they have been reported stolen.

Seems a pretty basic way of making it harder for stolen goods to be sold.
Andydave
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Post #24 7 May 2022 14:44
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The thing is, it's too easy to manipulate the system, can you imagine spraying rods and reels, selling them on and smart water being transferred everywhere, especially if they go to a dealer, before you know it 30 rods all have traces of the same smart water on them, itll end up like what our pound notes are like now with traces of cocaine all over the majority, could be harsh to prove what is what in a courtroom. Also the RFID wont be too hard to find in a rod, theres only a couple of places it can hide.
Nigel18
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Post #25 7 May 2022 14:47
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In reply to Post #24
No solution is perfect but if a RFID chip or a serial number was removed this would have to be done by a rod builder or someone very competent at building rods.

Your average thief is not going to be able to do this.
Andydave
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Post #26 7 May 2022 15:08
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In reply to Post #25
You would hope not, but it wont take long, not necessarily the thieves themselves, but the dodgy middlemen will cotton on quickly.
Look at people buying cars no one actual checks to see if the VIN numbers all match up, most believe the checks have been done, an advert with a few green ticks and people believe it
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #27 7 May 2022 15:56
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Andy Dave, not being funny, but it actually sounds like you are against people who are trying to take a stand against tackle theft, or are just trying to be as difficult as possible

OK, so a microchip the size of a grain of rice, places to hide on a rod; butt cap, reel seat, under whipping (which gives you a minimum of 12 places), shrink tube handle, inside the sections..

As for Smart Water this is from Smart Water themselves the Q&A on their Web page.


ONCE APPLIED, WILL SMARTTRACE TRANSFER ONTO ANYONE WHO LEGITIMATELY COMES INTO CONTACT WITH IT?

No. The Smar****er deterrent is powered by our convictions and thus it is essential that the police can place a criminal at a specific crime scene using your unique forensic code.

Goose Goose
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Post #28 7 May 2022 16:07
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How would thirty rods end up with traces of the same smar****er?
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