In reply to Post #13
You lost mate
You lost mate
In reply to Post #16
Jon didn't. He's still in the EU
Could be argued that the rest of did though...
Remember when the army did being the army and fuel lorries and ambulances were driven by people who were employed to do that?
Jon didn't. He's still in the EU
Could be argued that the rest of did though...
Remember when the army did being the army and fuel lorries and ambulances were driven by people who were employed to do that?
In reply to Post #17
were driven by people who were employed to do that?
Bit of a misconception there. You are on about a time when people wanted to work, why would they want to be cleaners, waiters and lorry drivers, it's below them (not that they have the skills or right attitude). What a mess, what a shower of ****. Foreign lorry drivers go home and we are ****ed, embarrassing really?
**** all the lazy ****s off abroad, bring back foreigners
were driven by people who were employed to do that?
Bit of a misconception there. You are on about a time when people wanted to work, why would they want to be cleaners, waiters and lorry drivers, it's below them (not that they have the skills or right attitude). What a mess, what a shower of ****. Foreign lorry drivers go home and we are ****ed, embarrassing really?
**** all the lazy ****s off abroad, bring back foreigners
In reply to Post #18
This isn't about voting to leave the EU causing it, as scozza rightly said below, we have a country full of lazy ****s.
I specialise in Velux windows, Velux are having supply issues because the warehouse staff were all Eastern European, because of covid they all went home to be with their families and because of brexit can't get back. Now, in the warehouse, despite there being loads of jobs available for £10ph, they can't fill them because the English don't want to do the graft. That is a fact, I'm feeling the supply issues because of it.
This isn't about voting to leave the EU causing it, as scozza rightly said below, we have a country full of lazy ****s.
I specialise in Velux windows, Velux are having supply issues because the warehouse staff were all Eastern European, because of covid they all went home to be with their families and because of brexit can't get back. Now, in the warehouse, despite there being loads of jobs available for £10ph, they can't fill them because the English don't want to do the graft. That is a fact, I'm feeling the supply issues because of it.
In reply to Post #19
You are right
Sad situation really, very
You are right
Sad situation really, very
In reply to Post #19
Getting a job driving fuel tankers for the companies that supply filling stations was always highly sought after and dead man's shoes to get in. It was very well paid and working conditions and pensions were very good. These supposed supply issues are manufactured to soften the public ready for the price hikes to come.
Getting a job driving fuel tankers for the companies that supply filling stations was always highly sought after and dead man's shoes to get in. It was very well paid and working conditions and pensions were very good. These supposed supply issues are manufactured to soften the public ready for the price hikes to come.
I thought it was only us that suffered from brexit. Or maybe it isn't brexit related at all
https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/187453/belgium-is-looking-for-5000-lorry-drivers-to-keep-shop-shelves-filled/
https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/187453/belgium-is-looking-for-5000-lorry-drivers-to-keep-shop-shelves-filled/
In reply to Post #22
To be fair, not the best job if you are stopping out doing overnights but it pays well, always has. I know a lot of lorry drivers, there are pros and cons, stressful too, saying that, a lot of jobs are
Get on the tankers and that's where the money is, additional hazards or course but that comes with the salary
Sat on your arse doing nothing or earning some serious coin is a no brainier for me, if you can be bothered of course
To be fair, not the best job if you are stopping out doing overnights but it pays well, always has. I know a lot of lorry drivers, there are pros and cons, stressful too, saying that, a lot of jobs are
Get on the tankers and that's where the money is, additional hazards or course but that comes with the salary
Sat on your arse doing nothing or earning some serious coin is a no brainier for me, if you can be bothered of course
As Boris said today, it's a good thing, it's driving up wages that were previously supressed by cheap immigraion.
We are an expensive country to live in and families need proper living wages.
HGV drivers may now be able to afford going carp fishing
We are an expensive country to live in and families need proper living wages.
HGV drivers may now be able to afford going carp fishing
In reply to Post #23
There was a video diary of a trucker doing the rounds. It's lot an easy job
But it's not brexit related
There was a video diary of a trucker doing the rounds. It's lot an easy job
But it's not brexit related
In reply to Post #24
It's all well and good saying up wages but where does that money come from?
It's directly out of our pockets, I heard an interview earlier this week where they said this inflation is transitional. Is it ****, printers printing money like it's going out of fashion, supply and demand causing price increases, wages going up.
Real world inflation is well over 10%, forget 4% officially quoted, its only the interest rates flagging behind to avoid absolute chaos but they can't keep kicking the can down the road forever.
It's all well and good saying up wages but where does that money come from?
It's directly out of our pockets, I heard an interview earlier this week where they said this inflation is transitional. Is it ****, printers printing money like it's going out of fashion, supply and demand causing price increases, wages going up.
Real world inflation is well over 10%, forget 4% officially quoted, its only the interest rates flagging behind to avoid absolute chaos but they can't keep kicking the can down the road forever.
I do believe hard working guys deserve a fair wage. You say where does the money come from, but so do they.
All the experts expect inflation to settle down come spring. Hope so, in my business we've put prices up by 40% - but expect to reduce them soon hopefully
All the experts expect inflation to settle down come spring. Hope so, in my business we've put prices up by 40% - but expect to reduce them soon hopefully
In reply to Post #27
Without sounding like a flash ****. These price increases won't affect me, but it will make a difference to the bloke driving lorry's who can now earn a decent wage
We are all happy getting stuff cheap but there's a knock on effect, and now it's payback time literally and rightly so IMO
Without sounding like a flash ****. These price increases won't affect me, but it will make a difference to the bloke driving lorry's who can now earn a decent wage
We are all happy getting stuff cheap but there's a knock on effect, and now it's payback time literally and rightly so IMO
In reply to Post #27
But that's the point, everyone deserves more so you put wages up but what good is earning more if everything costs more. 10% pay rise to counteract 20% cost increase equals being 10% worse off than you were before.
I hope the cost of things go down but in a capitalist economy that thrives on greed and has survived on exploitation of cheap imported labour for far too long, once those prices are up there, I can't see them tailing off to previous levels.
But that's the point, everyone deserves more so you put wages up but what good is earning more if everything costs more. 10% pay rise to counteract 20% cost increase equals being 10% worse off than you were before.
I hope the cost of things go down but in a capitalist economy that thrives on greed and has survived on exploitation of cheap imported labour for far too long, once those prices are up there, I can't see them tailing off to previous levels.
You have to love the arrogance of the government thinking that EU drivers have been sitting at home waiting for Boris to call and say 'please come and help us out as we're a bit stuck. By the way, it's just til Christmas so the British public can get their stuff and feel happy. I'm getting the turkey sorted for them too. Oh and we'll still pay you less than the British drivers buts that ok isn't it? Tally ho chaps!'