In reply to Post #14
No let it stay. To show that it's wrong ✌️
No let it stay. To show that it's wrong ✌️
In reply to Post #12
People like you are why nuts are banned on a lot of waters.
People like you are why nuts are banned on a lot of waters.
In reply to Post #12
Worst advice I've ever seen given on this forum, you are probably the only person on here that doesn't know that all particle must be prepared in the correct way, infact the Particle Preparation Guide sticky on here has been looked at 53321 times, I suggest you become number 53322!!
Worst advice I've ever seen given on this forum, you are probably the only person on here that doesn't know that all particle must be prepared in the correct way, infact the Particle Preparation Guide sticky on here has been looked at 53321 times, I suggest you become number 53322!!
In reply to Post #12
ANYONE READING THAT COMMET......
IGNORE
you are totally wrong posting "advice" like that.
ANYONE READING THAT COMMET......
IGNORE
you are totally wrong posting "advice" like that.
In reply to Post #20
I think he just means as a hookbait, which I'd agree with. But agree it should defo be clarified that unprepped nuts in any qty is not the one.
I think he just means as a hookbait, which I'd agree with. But agree it should defo be clarified that unprepped nuts in any qty is not the one.
In reply to Post #20
Deffo think that he was on about hookbaits. Many a carp angler has used dry or honey roasted nuts straight from the bag and incorporated them in PVA bags as loose feed. Macadamia nuts are a brilliant hookbait with no prep. When you consider that peanuts are roasted and not boiled when making peanut butter also, it does make you wonder what actually makes them so potentially dangerous? The fact that the carp does not have a stomach and only a long tube and they are crushed by the throat teeth it is practically like straight in and straight out. It does make you think also that when you see lake owners pouring in 10 x 25kg sacks of dry maize with no ill effects to the fish, just why nuts get such a bad press as maize swells just as much and if that is indeed the case and the real reason why they are banned. I guess in today's carp fishing the word " Moderation" is almost considered as swearing.
Or perhaps if lots of anglers got back on the nuts it would not be very good for boilie sales I would imagine.
Always safer to soak and boil even if just for peoples moral standards if using as loose feed that is.
Deffo think that he was on about hookbaits. Many a carp angler has used dry or honey roasted nuts straight from the bag and incorporated them in PVA bags as loose feed. Macadamia nuts are a brilliant hookbait with no prep. When you consider that peanuts are roasted and not boiled when making peanut butter also, it does make you wonder what actually makes them so potentially dangerous? The fact that the carp does not have a stomach and only a long tube and they are crushed by the throat teeth it is practically like straight in and straight out. It does make you think also that when you see lake owners pouring in 10 x 25kg sacks of dry maize with no ill effects to the fish, just why nuts get such a bad press as maize swells just as much and if that is indeed the case and the real reason why they are banned. I guess in today's carp fishing the word " Moderation" is almost considered as swearing.
Or perhaps if lots of anglers got back on the nuts it would not be very good for boilie sales I would imagine.
Always safer to soak and boil even if just for peoples moral standards if using as loose feed that is.
In reply to Post #22
He didnt mention hookbaits in particular though? The thing with these forums is they are open to people of all experience,so a newbie to carp angling could read that and just go chucking in loads of un prepped nuts . It was an awful post
He didnt mention hookbaits in particular though? The thing with these forums is they are open to people of all experience,so a newbie to carp angling could read that and just go chucking in loads of un prepped nuts . It was an awful post
In reply to Post #23
I read it as hookbaits, but I see your point.
I read it as hookbaits, but I see your point.
I was thinking the same idea. I know Ken said he used crunchy peanut butter but can someone clarify this is 100% safe to use on boilies? Are the nuts cooked?
In reply to Post #7
what do you think about TigerNut boilie with peanut butter and condensed milk in winter ? Thank you
what do you think about TigerNut boilie with peanut butter and condensed milk in winter ? Thank you
In reply to Post #27
Issue with peanuts in large numbers is that the carp love them, when everyone is feeding them and not much else the fish suffer as the peanuts don't give them much at all nutritionally. This has actually been proven by science (the bit about the low nutritional value of a peanut for carp due to not being able to process them).
Therefore it's scientifically proven that a peanut only diet can lead to emaciation (spelling?).
Now you couple that with making them even harder for the fish to process by not preparing them...well you'll speed up that process.
Wasn't over the top peanut usage they demise of a number of fisheries back in the day? They'll be some older anglers much better placed to know about them. Once anglers realised the fish were being caught on peanuts everyone was on them, and going overboard...
In any case, whether you believe they are dangerous unprepared or not, preparing them helps with attraction of the peanuts themselves. So why wouldn't you do it? Quicker release of oils, and other things depending on how you prepare them. Each to their own though of course. The French pile in uncooked maize, is it anywhere near effective as cooked? Or even fermented?
Issue with peanuts in large numbers is that the carp love them, when everyone is feeding them and not much else the fish suffer as the peanuts don't give them much at all nutritionally. This has actually been proven by science (the bit about the low nutritional value of a peanut for carp due to not being able to process them).
Therefore it's scientifically proven that a peanut only diet can lead to emaciation (spelling?).
Now you couple that with making them even harder for the fish to process by not preparing them...well you'll speed up that process.
Wasn't over the top peanut usage they demise of a number of fisheries back in the day? They'll be some older anglers much better placed to know about them. Once anglers realised the fish were being caught on peanuts everyone was on them, and going overboard...
In any case, whether you believe they are dangerous unprepared or not, preparing them helps with attraction of the peanuts themselves. So why wouldn't you do it? Quicker release of oils, and other things depending on how you prepare them. Each to their own though of course. The French pile in uncooked maize, is it anywhere near effective as cooked? Or even fermented?
In reply to Post #27
Unfortunately I have witnessed first hand carp dying from particles swelling in their digestive tract. Peanuts and maple peas being the culprits. Thrown in straight from the bag.
When you say that fish farmers feed unprepared particles to their stock that's not quite accurate. Soaked wheat and maize is fed, but never completely unprepared.
The whole peanut debate years ago is what stopped me believing in the hnv theory. How can carp know exactly what's good for them on the one hand and yet happily gorge themselves on something that will do them harm, or even kill them?
Unfortunately I have witnessed first hand carp dying from particles swelling in their digestive tract. Peanuts and maple peas being the culprits. Thrown in straight from the bag.
When you say that fish farmers feed unprepared particles to their stock that's not quite accurate. Soaked wheat and maize is fed, but never completely unprepared.
The whole peanut debate years ago is what stopped me believing in the hnv theory. How can carp know exactly what's good for them on the one hand and yet happily gorge themselves on something that will do them harm, or even kill them?
In reply to Post #27
You should have made your original post clearer ,for the reason mentioned earlier. There are 100% cases of unprepped particles doing major damage, as confirmed by Andy( and knowing him personally I know he's no reason to bs anyone) ,the guides are there for a reason and have remained because they are necessary. Particle preparation is essential.
You should have made your original post clearer ,for the reason mentioned earlier. There are 100% cases of unprepped particles doing major damage, as confirmed by Andy( and knowing him personally I know he's no reason to bs anyone) ,the guides are there for a reason and have remained because they are necessary. Particle preparation is essential.
In reply to Post #21
agreed mate
agreed mate
In reply to Post #22
agree again mate
agree again mate