In reply to Post #3
What he said
What he said
Said it many times, if you're using a good bait, it doesn't need additives, liquids or powders. I don't want all my free offerings ‘booming' with over concentrated flavouring. A quality bait is good out the bag. I give some of my pop ups a little boost, if they happen to come with a pot of liquid, if I want anything to have attraction, it's the one on the end of my rod.
In reply to Post #17
Interesting.
Interesting.
In reply to Post #18
And true...
And true...
So how about a liquid within a bait while it's being made.
I see john baker says a bait doesn't need liquid if the basemix is good. Do they improve a bait though or is to much lost during the boiling process.
I always like to add it for confidence but couldnt say if it's caught me more or less
I see john baker says a bait doesn't need liquid if the basemix is good. Do they improve a bait though or is to much lost during the boiling process.
I always like to add it for confidence but couldnt say if it's caught me more or less
In reply to Post #3
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In reply to Post #21
Completely agree.....
Completely agree.....
I do pre soak my boilies and coat them in powder, does it make a difference? I dunno but I believe it does mate, it gives me so much more confidence when I fish with it. But one thing I do see a lot of people do is put the liquid in with the boilie 5 minutes before they put the bait out to me I think this is a complete waste of time and will wash off as soon as it hits the water, I pre soak mine at least a week before.
Best thing I can say is find a bait your confident In and stick to it bud and try not confuse it to much by taking loads of different pots of hookbaits, I've done this In the past infact I suspect most have but I now only take 4 pots with me that's it
Best thing I can say is find a bait your confident In and stick to it bud and try not confuse it to much by taking loads of different pots of hookbaits, I've done this In the past infact I suspect most have but I now only take 4 pots with me that's it
In reply to Post #23
I'd love for someone to actually test the effects of using boilies both with and without liquid in a controlled test where all the variables are kept the same.
I'd love for someone to actually test the effects of using boilies both with and without liquid in a controlled test where all the variables are kept the same.
In reply to Post #24
How about one on either rod on the same spot?
As already mentioned, the only person you need to convince is yourself
How about one on either rod on the same spot?
As already mentioned, the only person you need to convince is yourself
In reply to Post #24
Where there are live animals involved you can't really control the variables . Liquids do work , as do powders. But a good bait shouldn't need them!
Where there are live animals involved you can't really control the variables . Liquids do work , as do powders. But a good bait shouldn't need them!
In reply to Post #24
I have
I have
In reply to Post #27
And what did you conclude?
And what did you conclude?
In reply to Post #28
Well, basically liquids are probably more important than even we realise. Hydro liquids such as shrimp, krill, salmon, calanus are in my opinion the biggest edge in bait production. Several years ago we tested a red fishmeal boilie that was very well put together with very nice ingredients. The base contained hydro shrimp extract. When fed to the carp in a tank the response was very very positive to the point that the fish farmer said it was one of the best responses he had seen. The really interesting part was that the fish in the tank next door (not being fed) were immediately drawn to the drain cover where the water from the tank being fed is exhausted through. The fish in the tank next door were mouthing the grill as they could taste the bait being eaten by their brothers and sisters 3 metres away behind a block wall! I will not make a bait without liquids!!
And in their pure form they are a game changer. But remember that you can't just pour any old crap over a rubbish bait and expect to catch a pb every time. The bait needs to be attractive and digestible in the first place. The flavours used in baits are the last thing to worry about in my opinion 😉
Well, basically liquids are probably more important than even we realise. Hydro liquids such as shrimp, krill, salmon, calanus are in my opinion the biggest edge in bait production. Several years ago we tested a red fishmeal boilie that was very well put together with very nice ingredients. The base contained hydro shrimp extract. When fed to the carp in a tank the response was very very positive to the point that the fish farmer said it was one of the best responses he had seen. The really interesting part was that the fish in the tank next door (not being fed) were immediately drawn to the drain cover where the water from the tank being fed is exhausted through. The fish in the tank next door were mouthing the grill as they could taste the bait being eaten by their brothers and sisters 3 metres away behind a block wall! I will not make a bait without liquids!!
And in their pure form they are a game changer. But remember that you can't just pour any old crap over a rubbish bait and expect to catch a pb every time. The bait needs to be attractive and digestible in the first place. The flavours used in baits are the last thing to worry about in my opinion 😉
In reply to Post #29
Agreed, liquids are massive for me, in as much to say that when I was making my own bait the bait would be formulated around the liquid.
As said though decent bait should catch without having to coat the baits with all sorts.
Agreed, liquids are massive for me, in as much to say that when I was making my own bait the bait would be formulated around the liquid.
As said though decent bait should catch without having to coat the baits with all sorts.