In reply to Post #15
It's a glorified tent ffs See how much a similar sized camping tent is then you realise how much we are being shafted.
It's a glorified tent ffs See how much a similar sized camping tent is then you realise how much we are being shafted.
In reply to Post #11
And all the times idiots keep paying these stupid prices for over priced tents their just keep ramping the prices up
And all the times idiots keep paying these stupid prices for over priced tents their just keep ramping the prices up
In reply to Post #17
I dont even think the idiots will pay those prices.
I dont even think the idiots will pay those prices.
In reply to Post #18
Oh they will
Oh they will
In reply to Post #19
Im quite surprised trakker are still trading as there cant be that many people out there paying there prices for bivvys to keep them in business.
Im quite surprised trakker are still trading as there cant be that many people out there paying there prices for bivvys to keep them in business.
In reply to Post #17
I totally agree with carpy 09 I keep saying if you keep paying they will keep putting the price up and other companies follow and then you won't be able to buy a bivvy under one thousand if they didn't sell they would have to reduce the price or have a warehouse full of them what a liberty to charge that amount for a fishing tent in the middle of this virus when people are struggling total arrogance
I totally agree with carpy 09 I keep saying if you keep paying they will keep putting the price up and other companies follow and then you won't be able to buy a bivvy under one thousand if they didn't sell they would have to reduce the price or have a warehouse full of them what a liberty to charge that amount for a fishing tent in the middle of this virus when people are struggling total arrogance
In reply to Post #17
Makes a Tempest Advanced 150 / Pioneer 150 at £799 look like pikey prices. . . .
Makes a Tempest Advanced 150 / Pioneer 150 at £799 look like pikey prices. . . .
I only paid £450 for my v2 tempest xl 6 months ago from johnson ross and i thought thhat was a rip off. Imagine putting a hole in your new £1400 on the first outing.
In reply to Post #7
but not in action man camo
but not in action man camo
In reply to Post #5
Do they come with a 10 year or lifetime guarantee?
Another rip off £
I guess the next benchmark is the £1500 tent that costs around £60 to make in a sweat shop
Do they come with a 10 year or lifetime guarantee?
Another rip off £
I guess the next benchmark is the £1500 tent that costs around £60 to make in a sweat shop
In reply to Post #25
. . watched the Chris Manifold Aqua 'doc' on you tube last night . . .reckon he might make me a prototype with the offcuts in his shed(s) for £1400 . . !
He actually states that unless you can create an automatically self assembling bivvy, that structural designs have pretty much reached a plateau . . .and on this basis materials specification (stronger/lighter/more resistant to the elements) will be the things that push bivvy design forward.
Don't think these are made of Goretex Pro & Graphene somehow tho . . .what is EV Aquatexx anyway . . ?
. . watched the Chris Manifold Aqua 'doc' on you tube last night . . .reckon he might make me a prototype with the offcuts in his shed(s) for £1400 . . !
He actually states that unless you can create an automatically self assembling bivvy, that structural designs have pretty much reached a plateau . . .and on this basis materials specification (stronger/lighter/more resistant to the elements) will be the things that push bivvy design forward.
Don't think these are made of Goretex Pro & Graphene somehow tho . . .what is EV Aquatexx anyway . . ?
Does it fly itself to your swim and put itself up automatically?
It seems the price of the top end bivvies doubles every few years, by 2030 we'll be able to buy a low end car for less than a top end bivvy
It seems the price of the top end bivvies doubles every few years, by 2030 we'll be able to buy a low end car for less than a top end bivvy
In reply to Post #26
No different to expensive jackets, final frontier really, the ultimate breathable jacket. I've had the lot, Gortex, E.vent etc. Not perfected as yet. Probably need to get NASA involved!
No different to expensive jackets, final frontier really, the ultimate breathable jacket. I've had the lot, Gortex, E.vent etc. Not perfected as yet. Probably need to get NASA involved!
In reply to Post #28
you are right. none are really breathable when put to the test.
great quote from an outdoorsman for breathable and waterproof in a rainforest. buy an Umbrella
you are right. none are really breathable when put to the test.
great quote from an outdoorsman for breathable and waterproof in a rainforest. buy an Umbrella
In reply to Post #29
Breathable materials on shelters aren't really needed as the source of "heat" inside the bivvy is too far away from the material to actually "push" through the pores in it (i.e. pressure too low). Also if the outside is dirty or wet, then the pores ill be blocked so no different to a non-breathable material in practise. This is why single skin breathable shelters still suffer with condensation.
The reason why breathable clothing such as true Gore-Tex will have a layered construction is so there is a gap that keeps the outer material away from touching the skin so it can breath properly & moisture on the skin doesn't block the pores up.
Breathable materials on shelters aren't really needed as the source of "heat" inside the bivvy is too far away from the material to actually "push" through the pores in it (i.e. pressure too low). Also if the outside is dirty or wet, then the pores ill be blocked so no different to a non-breathable material in practise. This is why single skin breathable shelters still suffer with condensation.
The reason why breathable clothing such as true Gore-Tex will have a layered construction is so there is a gap that keeps the outer material away from touching the skin so it can breath properly & moisture on the skin doesn't block the pores up.