In reply to Post #14
Strange one the dye. A water I know they did the same this year, can't make my mind up. I'm guessing the benefits come two or three years down the line when all the natural ecology has gone and they rely on bait
The colouring up one makes kind of sense though if it deters cormorants etc?
Don't want to hijack the thread, quick question. Has anybody got any experience of dying fish?
Can't say it's something I have come across a lot but I got a very special ticket last year and the stock fish have had their fins dyed purple. They claim to have put loads in but none have been caught so far...
Strange one the dye. A water I know they did the same this year, can't make my mind up. I'm guessing the benefits come two or three years down the line when all the natural ecology has gone and they rely on bait
The colouring up one makes kind of sense though if it deters cormorants etc?
Don't want to hijack the thread, quick question. Has anybody got any experience of dying fish?
Can't say it's something I have come across a lot but I got a very special ticket last year and the stock fish have had their fins dyed purple. They claim to have put loads in but none have been caught so far...
In reply to Post #16
Where do the insect eating birds (swallows, martins, hobbies...) and bats (Daubenton's etc) find their food now that the dye has killed the weed the aquatic invertebrates live on?
Where do the insect eating birds (swallows, martins, hobbies...) and bats (Daubenton's etc) find their food now that the dye has killed the weed the aquatic invertebrates live on?
In reply to Post #17
I agree. A lot of carp anglers do not or cannot fish weed waters, the life blood of most rich lakes!
I agree. A lot of carp anglers do not or cannot fish weed waters, the life blood of most rich lakes!
In reply to Post #17
I'm on 2 lake's both naturally chocolate in colour so no weed growth whatsoever one is of natural scientific interest so you could not apply anything into it if you wanted to other is part of a nature resurve, so coloured and no weed yet both are full of insects and aquatic life there's Kingfisher swallows the whole lot, I /we applied dye to a separate syndicate that I used to run (and I'm still an active member) to stop fish being tethered in weed then we had member's fishing heavy braid and making a right mess of fishes mouths as they dragged them out. So we applied weed dye now into it's 5th year, we still have bits of weed in the shallows and it hasn't affected the pads or rushes ,there's loads of insects crawling out every spring bats bird life so from my experience your comments just don't add up.So just as we went to great expence putting a fence around to prevent otters and preserve fish stocks we added dye in the same vein, i.e to look after the stock. what's next people will be moaning because otters can't eat
This is actually replying to post 16
I'm on 2 lake's both naturally chocolate in colour so no weed growth whatsoever one is of natural scientific interest so you could not apply anything into it if you wanted to other is part of a nature resurve, so coloured and no weed yet both are full of insects and aquatic life there's Kingfisher swallows the whole lot, I /we applied dye to a separate syndicate that I used to run (and I'm still an active member) to stop fish being tethered in weed then we had member's fishing heavy braid and making a right mess of fishes mouths as they dragged them out. So we applied weed dye now into it's 5th year, we still have bits of weed in the shallows and it hasn't affected the pads or rushes ,there's loads of insects crawling out every spring bats bird life so from my experience your comments just don't add up.So just as we went to great expence putting a fence around to prevent otters and preserve fish stocks we added dye in the same vein, i.e to look after the stock. what's next people will be moaning because otters can't eat
This is actually replying to post 16
In reply to Post #19
Interesting feedback that mate. I don't have long term experience of lakes which have been dyed so a bit of a learning curve for me
Which parts don't add up?
Interesting feedback that mate. I don't have long term experience of lakes which have been dyed so a bit of a learning curve for me
Which parts don't add up?
In reply to Post #19
Don't worry ARMALITE, you'll get every scrap killed off in the next few years.
You make my point very well. What is left of the invertebrates are living on what is left of the macrophytes.
6CO2 + 6H2O + light energy = C6H12O6 + 6O2
Don't worry ARMALITE, you'll get every scrap killed off in the next few years.
You make my point very well. What is left of the invertebrates are living on what is left of the macrophytes.
6CO2 + 6H2O + light energy = C6H12O6 + 6O2
In reply to Post #21
My lake is naturally coloured and not a scrap of weed grows, not even when I've introduced it. However there is absolutely loads of life going on both above and below the surface. Snails and shrimps abound, as well as damsel, dragon and caddis fly nymphs. I can't see why the blue dye would have any different an effect?
My lake is naturally coloured and not a scrap of weed grows, not even when I've introduced it. However there is absolutely loads of life going on both above and below the surface. Snails and shrimps abound, as well as damsel, dragon and caddis fly nymphs. I can't see why the blue dye would have any different an effect?
In reply to Post #16
I've not seen fins dyed before, but have seen dye injected under the skin on the belly of fish for monitoring purposes.
I've not seen fins dyed before, but have seen dye injected under the skin on the belly of fish for monitoring purposes.
In reply to Post #23
Interesting. The bailiff told me they had dyed the fins purple to help identify the stock fish, none have been seen apparently. I guess you could be right, injection sounds like the thing to me, can see how they can just dye the fins?
Interesting. The bailiff told me they had dyed the fins purple to help identify the stock fish, none have been seen apparently. I guess you could be right, injection sounds like the thing to me, can see how they can just dye the fins?
In reply to Post #14
It doesn't from what I have seen, weed growth is still present just not as bad as it was without the dye. Water is crystal clear and you can see the weed so I'm sure there is plenty of life still present in it......
It doesn't from what I have seen, weed growth is still present just not as bad as it was without the dye. Water is crystal clear and you can see the weed so I'm sure there is plenty of life still present in it......
In reply to Post #20
All the insects that hatch out dying we've loads still we never had snail's before they always got eaten , we didn't use blue the water was just changed to a dark colour it reflects the sun light back so it doesn't penetrate
All the insects that hatch out dying we've loads still we never had snail's before they always got eaten , we didn't use blue the water was just changed to a dark colour it reflects the sun light back so it doesn't penetrate
In reply to Post #26
I don't understand your reply mate, same as the previous one, maybe you should talk to Justin?
I don't understand your reply mate, same as the previous one, maybe you should talk to Justin?
Having had to use Dye in a lake for three years now – it does help but there is no magic cure to these fast growing invasive weed species like Elodea crispa, it will always be a battle and can be an expensive one at that.
But Dye is not a poison, it harms absolutely nothing – all it does it slow down photo synthesis which in turn slows down the weeds growth.
But Dye is not a poison, it harms absolutely nothing – all it does it slow down photo synthesis which in turn slows down the weeds growth.
In reply to Post #28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM
In reply to Post #29
Dyofix pond dyes are propriety blends of European Food approved colours and do not pose any threat to humans, animals, fish or insects.
Non-toxic, eco-friendly Pond Blue dye for lakes will control algae and aquatic weeds that often cause serious problems, interfering with fishing, boating, swimming, and irrigation. The extremely dense growths of filamentous algae and submerged weeds that also cause serious problems to fish, as a result of night time oxygen depletion, will also be controlled.
Using blue dye for lakes is economical, using less effort
Pond Blue dye for lakes replaces the need for manual algae prevention which is very labour intensive and not always practical.
Pond Blue dye also negates the need for chemicals, algaecides, herbicides which, if not used in precise doses or under strict supervision by experts, can cause an imbalance of the natural nutrients in the pond that can have a negative effect on fish, plants and other species.
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Dyofix pond dyes are propriety blends of European Food approved colours and do not pose any threat to humans, animals, fish or insects.
Non-toxic, eco-friendly Pond Blue dye for lakes will control algae and aquatic weeds that often cause serious problems, interfering with fishing, boating, swimming, and irrigation. The extremely dense growths of filamentous algae and submerged weeds that also cause serious problems to fish, as a result of night time oxygen depletion, will also be controlled.
Using blue dye for lakes is economical, using less effort
Pond Blue dye for lakes replaces the need for manual algae prevention which is very labour intensive and not always practical.
Pond Blue dye also negates the need for chemicals, algaecides, herbicides which, if not used in precise doses or under strict supervision by experts, can cause an imbalance of the natural nutrients in the pond that can have a negative effect on fish, plants and other species.
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